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CHERRIES boss Kevin Bond will this week continue his exhaustive search for a proven striker after missing out on a host of possible targets.
Bond, who is desperate to find a replacement for Bristol Rovers-bound Jo Kuffour, must move before the transfer window closes a week today.
Kuffour is expected to join Rovers in a £60,000 deal later this week and probably would have signed already had he not been laid low by flu.
Cherries' plight was highlighted as they mustered a solitary chance of note during their dismal 1-0 defeat by League Two rivals Exeter City on Saturday.
And although Bond drafted in untried Liverpool striker Craig Lindfield ahead of the Dean Court showdown, he also revealed he had received a series of other knock-backs.
Extensive enquiries for several experienced frontmen drew a frustrating blank as Bond's attempts to further bolster his limited striking options proved fruitless.
Among the players to have rejected his advances were Vincent Pericard of Stoke, ex-Sheffield United star Geoff Horsfield and Crystal Palace pair Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman.
Bond was also rebuffed when he asked about the availability of Ben May from Scunthorpe, Coventry's Kevin Kyle, Liam Hatch of Peterborough and Middlesbrough youngster Tom Craddock.
Speaking to the Daily Echo, Bond said last night: "I spoke to at least half-a-dozen agents and managers last week and, for whatever reason, we can't get the players or they won't come here. I get the same answer right across the board.
"I would love to be able to say something to please everybody but it's as frustrating for me, the players and everybody else because centre-forwards don't grow on trees."
Asked whether he could put his finger on why players were reluctant to join Cherries, Bond replied: "At the start of every season, everybody wants to have a successful season but success is relative for every club.
"If you're trying to attract a player to Bournemouth this season and you look at the situation we're in, they are probably asking themselves what the incentive is for them to have a successful campaign.
"At this moment in time, staying in the league would probably be a success and ambitious players want more than that. They want to have a good year and to go up so they might look at our situation and think we're not for them.
"The situation was heightened by the fact that we were only able to join the race for strikers very late in pre-season. But it's my job to find players and we will work hard to bring in the right people and to win the games we need to win."
Bond, who dismissed making a move for freed Wycombe striker Leon Knight, confirmed he was still waiting to hear from Swindon and Brentford regarding the possibility of signing either Barry Corr or Alan Connell, respectively.
7:00am Monday 25th August 2008
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CommentPosted by: Nick71, Poole on 7:33am Mon 25 Aug 08
Having blamed everyone else associated with the Bournemouth for his lack of success, now Bond is putting players of far flung clubs at fault. The one thing that Kevin Bond tries really hard at; attempting to publicise his excuses in advance of his failure.
Having blamed everyone else associated with the Bournemouth for his lack of success, now Bond is putting players of far flung clubs at fault. The one thing that Kevin Bond tries really hard at; attempting to publicise his excuses in advance of his failure.
Posted by: AFCB AL on 7:42am Mon 25 Aug 08
Would like to see him give Hutchings a try out. Looked good on the few viewings we've had of him.
Would like to see him give Hutchings a try out. Looked good on the few viewings we've had of him.
Posted by: Tom Griffiths., Bransgore. on 7:52am Mon 25 Aug 08
I hope the genuine supporters of AFCB will read Kevin's explanation of the difficulties in trying to attract players to the club in it's prevailing predicament. I think any sensible player would have to think very carefully about joining a club which has just been demoted and has had to start the season with a seventeen points deficit. As for those calling for Kevin Bond's dismissal, would anyone want his job in the circumstances?.He is obviously doing his best , but what has he got to offer except the attractive area in which we live.
I hope the genuine supporters of AFCB will read Kevin's explanation of the difficulties in trying to attract players to the club in it's prevailing predicament. I think any sensible player would have to think very carefully about joining a club which has just been demoted and has had to start the season with a seventeen points deficit. As for those calling for Kevin Bond's dismissal, would anyone want his job in the circumstances?.He is obviously doing his best , but what has he got to offer except the attractive area in which we live.
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 7:56am Mon 25 Aug 08
Kevin Bond's best is obviously well below the acceptable standard. Who wants to pay to watch a failing team play rubbish football with precious little commitment? I don't, although for the past 22 months, I have handed over a lot of money to watch matches with not very much to be happy about.
Kevin Bond's best is obviously well below the acceptable standard. Who wants to pay to watch a failing team play rubbish football with precious little commitment? I don't, although for the past 22 months, I have handed over a lot of money to watch matches with not very much to be happy about.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:19am Mon 25 Aug 08
But it's my job to find players and we will work hard to bring in the right people and to win the games we need to win."
[bold]bold[/bold] I thought that role was being filled by Sutton What does Ted do are we getting value for Money I think not[bold]bold[/bold]
But it's my job to find players and we will work hard to bring in the right people and to win the games we need to win."
I thought that role was being filled by Sutton What does Ted do are we getting value for Money I think not
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 8:22am Mon 25 Aug 08
Something needs to change!!!!
Something needs to change!!!!
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:25am Mon 25 Aug 08
Corr looks like the sort of Player Bond would sign never scored anywhere on his loans didnt score in 18 games over 2 seasons at Sheffield Wednesday but to be fair got 8 for Swindon but career plagued by persistant injury. Should fit in here well
Corr looks like the sort of Player Bond would sign never scored anywhere on his loans didnt score in 18 games over 2 seasons at Sheffield Wednesday but to be fair got 8 for Swindon but career plagued by persistant injury. Should fit in here well
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:30am Mon 25 Aug 08
For pitys sake get real Bond there is no proberbly about it it is bloody vital Face facts or go. All we here is about Sutton and Bonds vast contacts not done us much good has it
For pitys sake get real Bond there is no proberbly about it it is bloody vital Face facts or go. All we here is about Sutton and Bonds vast contacts not done us much good has it
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:33am Mon 25 Aug 08
Sorry I meant to paste this into my previous post BOND SAID "At this moment in time, staying in the league would probably be a success
Bloody Priceless
Sorry I meant to paste this into my previous post BOND SAID "At this moment in time, staying in the league would probably be a success
Bloody Priceless
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 8:35am Mon 25 Aug 08
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that?
As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that?
As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:42am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Tom Griffiths.[/bold] wrote:
I hope the genuine supporters of AFCB will read Kevin's explanation of the difficulties in trying to attract players to the club in it's prevailing predicament. I think any sensible player would have to think very carefully about joining a club which has just been demoted and has had to start the season with a seventeen points deficit. As for those calling for Kevin Bond's dismissal, would anyone want his job in the circumstances?.He is obviously doing his best , but what has he got to offer except the attractive area in which we live.[/quote] Tom I admire your loyalty but if Bond left I dont think there would be a shortage of applicants for the job. If as you say Bond is trying his best then its simply not good enough . I agree its not easy but He is paid to get us to win Football matches He was clearly responsible for the dismal display on Saturday playing no Striker in a home game when miles behind other Clubs and having to claw as many points as possible and starting a game with you joint top scorer (on 1) on the bench beggers belief. He had better get the Team to show some guts soon or we have had it
Tom Griffiths. wrote:
I hope the genuine supporters of AFCB will read Kevin's explanation of the difficulties in trying to attract players to the club in it's prevailing predicament. I think any sensible player would have to think very carefully about joining a club which has just been demoted and has had to start the season with a seventeen points deficit. As for those calling for Kevin Bond's dismissal, would anyone want his job in the circumstances?.He is obviously doing his best , but what has he got to offer except the attractive area in which we live.
Tom I admire your loyalty but if Bond left I dont think there would be a shortage of applicants for the job. If as you say Bond is trying his best then its simply not good enough . I agree its not easy but He is paid to get us to win Football matches He was clearly responsible for the dismal display on Saturday playing no Striker in a home game when miles behind other Clubs and having to claw as many points as possible and starting a game with you joint top scorer (on 1) on the bench beggers belief. He had better get the Team to show some guts soon or we have had it
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:44am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that? As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?[/quote] I agree Bond has clearly not learned a thing from his mismanagement of Mostyns folly last season. Although his pre made excuses are getting more elaborate
Nick71 wrote:
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that? As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?
I agree Bond has clearly not learned a thing from his mismanagement of Mostyns folly last season. Although his pre made excuses are getting more elaborate
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:50am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that? As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?[/quote] Also any fool can go to any club and ask for players Bond could phone Liverpool and ask for Torres and get turned down its just absolute rubbish. The worrying thing is time is running out. Baker said JK would not go until we had a replacement. but it looks like he is going anyway so someone in this week or are we pinning our hopes of survival on Pitmam !!!!! or has jeff been giving Baker a crash course on blatant lying
Nick71 wrote:
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that? As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?
Also any fool can go to any club and ask for players Bond could phone Liverpool and ask for Torres and get turned down its just absolute rubbish. The worrying thing is time is running out. Baker said JK would not go until we had a replacement. but it looks like he is going anyway so someone in this week or are we pinning our hopes of survival on Pitmam !!!!! or has jeff been giving Baker a crash course on blatant lying
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 8:57am Mon 25 Aug 08
In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have.
The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2.
As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP
1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources
2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results
3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone.
But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.
In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have.
The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2.
As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP
1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources
2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results
3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone.
But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.
Posted by: Rob Timatty, Bournemouth on 8:57am Mon 25 Aug 08
Every Manager needs help from within the club and maybe he is not getting that ? The last six months have been diffilcult for all the staff and the whole club needs a lift but i don`t think that they are getting one. Like its been said what does Sutton do , who does what ? who`s leading the way ? at the moment all i hear is talk and we need action.
Every Manager needs help from within the club and maybe he is not getting that ? The last six months have been diffilcult for all the staff and the whole club needs a lift but i don`t think that they are getting one. Like its been said what does Sutton do , who does what ? who`s leading the way ? at the moment all i hear is talk and we need action.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 9:01am Mon 25 Aug 08
Kaffour and a fit Sapperton, would in this league be a potent strike force. If a replacement for Kuffour can't be found before the transfer deadline then the Board should keep their promise and Kaffour. If they don't then we will be in the Conference next Season and by Christmas the gates will be below 3000.This is the "Crunch Time" and their credibility with the supporters will be decided by their actions.
Kaffour and a fit Sapperton, would in this league be a potent strike force. If a replacement for Kuffour can't be found before the transfer deadline then the Board should keep their promise and Kaffour. If they don't then we will be in the Conference next Season and by Christmas the gates will be below 3000.This is the "Crunch Time" and their credibility with the supporters will be decided by their actions.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 9:10am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have. The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2. As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP 1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources 2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results 3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone. But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.[/quote] [bold]bold[/bold] [bold]bold[/bold] I am afraid that this is the real World and if players are reluctant to come here given the Club's problems, what on earth would attract "investors" to a Club with no assets and little prospects. If one hasn't turned up in the past eighteen months, why should one now, particularily given the economic position and outlook for the UK.
AFCB The Only wrote:
In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have. The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2. As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP 1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources 2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results 3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone. But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.
I am afraid that this is the real World and if players are reluctant to come here given the Club's problems, what on earth would attract "investors" to a Club with no assets and little prospects. If one hasn't turned up in the past eighteen months, why should one now, particularily given the economic position and outlook for the UK.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 9:29am Mon 25 Aug 08
Richard, you can't compare the football business to the general economic business in the UK.
I am sure there are many reasons, maybe not all of them based on short term business ROI
Richard, you can't compare the football business to the general economic business in the UK.
I am sure there are many reasons, maybe not all of them based on short term business ROI
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 9:39am Mon 25 Aug 08
Back to the let's just get some new owners in with loads of money to sort this out are we, priceless. How long have we been waiting for that to happen? I've been going to Dean Court for 33+ years and I have yet to see one in all that time, I wonder if there is a millionaire out there who needs a toy for a tax write off. It would be great to have this miracle worker but honestly who is going to buy the club with no assets, no ground and 23rd in league 2 on -15 points, a team that can't win a dwindling fan base and a manager who can't see whats at the end of his nose. We have to be realistic the new owners have only been on board a matter of weeks, why the need to change them? Baker must back Bond with players and investment in the team, or sack Bond and bring in a new manager, but all this we need new owners to sort this out isn't going to get us a win on Saturday is it.
Back to the let's just get some new owners in with loads of money to sort this out are we, priceless. How long have we been waiting for that to happen? I've been going to Dean Court for 33+ years and I have yet to see one in all that time, I wonder if there is a millionaire out there who needs a toy for a tax write off. It would be great to have this miracle worker but honestly who is going to buy the club with no assets, no ground and 23rd in league 2 on -15 points, a team that can't win a dwindling fan base and a manager who can't see whats at the end of his nose. We have to be realistic the new owners have only been on board a matter of weeks, why the need to change them? Baker must back Bond with players and investment in the team, or sack Bond and bring in a new manager, but all this we need new owners to sort this out isn't going to get us a win on Saturday is it.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 9:45am Mon 25 Aug 08
I will clarify my point about new owners. It would take weeks if not months for a new owner to buy the club because of the process, this would mean a period of limbo, current owners not wanting to spend prospective owners not able to spend, therefore I do not see now as the right time for it to happen. I am not against new owners if they have the investment but I think at present it would do more harm than good, as for Baker he has to show his hand and make decisions fast!!!
I will clarify my point about new owners. It would take weeks if not months for a new owner to buy the club because of the process, this would mean a period of limbo, current owners not wanting to spend prospective owners not able to spend, therefore I do not see now as the right time for it to happen. I am not against new owners if they have the investment but I think at present it would do more harm than good, as for Baker he has to show his hand and make decisions fast!!!
Posted by: Plastic, eaststand on 10:23am Mon 25 Aug 08
With his tactic of playing one up front why does Bond need more strikers ?
With his tactic of playing one up front why does Bond need more strikers ?
Posted by: Onetruefan, Wickham on 10:41am Mon 25 Aug 08
Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 10:45am Mon 25 Aug 08
you forgot to add Michael Owen and Drogba in your list Kevin, you have just brought two strikers in and you are still looking, it does give the impression you dont know what you are looking at
you forgot to add Michael Owen and Drogba in your list Kevin, you have just brought two strikers in and you are still looking, it does give the impression you dont know what you are looking at
Posted by: eyesopen, Bracknell on 10:50am Mon 25 Aug 08
Can't for the life of me see why Bristol Rovers want another striker for after last saturday, and if we are paying his wages JK should be playing for us.
Can't for the life of me see why Bristol Rovers want another striker for after last saturday, and if we are paying his wages JK should be playing for us.
Posted by: afcbjohn, poole on 10:54am Mon 25 Aug 08
I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.
I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 11:06am Mon 25 Aug 08
Three different owners, three different squads, god knows how many loan players, and 3 starts under the same manager with the same results, you could bring in a dozen strikers. The record under Bond speaks for itself. Sometimes you just have to face facts, it just isn't working.
Three different owners, three different squads, god knows how many loan players, and 3 starts under the same manager with the same results, you could bring in a dozen strikers. The record under Bond speaks for itself. Sometimes you just have to face facts, it just isn't working.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 11:08am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]afcbjohn[/bold] wrote:
I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.[/quote] He's the right age for our team, we wouldn't want bring in a young player would we? (I am being ironic by the way). John Hartson would probably be more suited to a different role don't you think?
afcbjohn wrote:
I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.
He's the right age for our team, we wouldn't want bring in a young player would we? (I am being ironic by the way). John Hartson would probably be more suited to a different role don't you think?
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 11:17am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Onetruefan[/bold] wrote:
Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.[/quote] dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own
Onetruefan wrote:
Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own
Posted by: mdean, Bournemouth on 11:20am Mon 25 Aug 08
There is a simple solution, sack the managers and try a sunday league one what is there to loose, we are loosing already....
There is a simple solution, sack the managers and try a sunday league one what is there to loose, we are loosing already....
Posted by: CJR, Fleet on 11:33am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have. The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2. As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP 1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources 2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results 3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone. But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.[/quote] Leon Knight has fallen out with most coaches , why would Bond want to have another problem to manage?
AFCB The Only wrote:
In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have. The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2. As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP 1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources 2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results 3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone. But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.
Leon Knight has fallen out with most coaches , why would Bond want to have another problem to manage?
Posted by: CJR, Fleet on 11:35am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Onetruefan[/bold] wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.[/quote] dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own[/quote] Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.
john coombes wrote:
Onetruefan wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own
Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.
Posted by: dan, kinson on 11:45am Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that? As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?[/quote] in fairness i think you'll find fringe players in the championship may be on a lot less than 10 grand a week, things have changed since but the average wages 3 seasons ago were as follows, league 2 - £30,000pa, league one- £75,000pa, championship - £250,000pa and prem £750,000pa, on the above figures you can fairly guess that players on absurd contracts will balance out the fact that some prem players must still be on relatively low wages in comparison, the likes of freedman and kuqi who have been playing in the championship most of their careers and now find themselves fringe i'm sure would have been interested in the move had we started on scratch, anyway the fact that we are linked with the players is testament to kb, playing one at home he realises that we need strikers and lets be honest kuffour must be on at least £2,000 a week, that cash freed up could allow us to bring in 2 decent players at this level maybe even 3 players on the upgrade. keep up the chasing kb and it will eventually prevail, one more thing, this preseason we have seen just how far football has come or not as the case maybe, when you sign a contract you honour it, NO MATTER WHAT. some of these players really are little boys that just cannot get their own way.
Nick71 wrote:
Bond's claim is ridiculous. Why should championship players (Vincent Pericard - Stoke, Geoff Horsfield - Sheffield United, Shefki Kuqi and Dougie Freedman - Crystal Palace) used to,what, five or ten thousand pounds a week, come to Bournemouth for a fraction of that? As for the other players, the clubs said that they weren't available. Does Bond have any sense at all?
in fairness i think you'll find fringe players in the championship may be on a lot less than 10 grand a week, things have changed since but the average wages 3 seasons ago were as follows, league 2 - £30,000pa, league one- £75,000pa, championship - £250,000pa and prem £750,000pa, on the above figures you can fairly guess that players on absurd contracts will balance out the fact that some prem players must still be on relatively low wages in comparison, the likes of freedman and kuqi who have been playing in the championship most of their careers and now find themselves fringe i'm sure would have been interested in the move had we started on scratch, anyway the fact that we are linked with the players is testament to kb, playing one at home he realises that we need strikers and lets be honest kuffour must be on at least £2,000 a week, that cash freed up could allow us to bring in 2 decent players at this level maybe even 3 players on the upgrade. keep up the chasing kb and it will eventually prevail, one more thing, this preseason we have seen just how far football has come or not as the case maybe, when you sign a contract you honour it, NO MATTER WHAT. some of these players really are little boys that just cannot get their own way.
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 12:14pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Groundhog Day.
Same crap , same excuses Mr Bond.
Time for a changeand quick about it, no time to hang around or we will be down to non leaque football.
Daddy has destroyed this club.
Time for BIG changes.
Please do the right thing Mr Bond or is Daddy still protecting you?
Groundhog Day.
Same crap , same excuses Mr Bond.
Time for a changeand quick about it, no time to hang around or we will be down to non leaque football.
Daddy has destroyed this club.
Time for BIG changes.
Please do the right thing Mr Bond or is Daddy still protecting you?
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 12:24pm Mon 25 Aug 08
He probably is and also Baker has no money to pay him off.
He probably is and also Baker has no money to pay him off.
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 12:25pm Mon 25 Aug 08
all this talk of bond out etc just remember how long it took to replace SOD seem to recall no wins in the transition period what bond needs to do is play the strikers he has got and not start them on the bench
all this talk of bond out etc just remember how long it took to replace SOD seem to recall no wins in the transition period what bond needs to do is play the strikers he has got and not start them on the bench
Posted by: kenno, Sidmouth on 12:27pm Mon 25 Aug 08
The solution to our predicament is straightforward and i am surprised no one else is picking up on this.
When we have the ball virtually every player is looking for Anderton.
As the opposing manager i would just get the players to stay in front of Anderton and wait for his legs to tire around 35-40 minutes.Then the rest of the game is ours.
Bond needs to either rip up Anderton's contract and use the money to bring in a striker and left midfield player or only use Anderton as an impact player from the bench when we have two strikers up front for him to pass to.
Cooper should revert to right back, with Bartley and Hollands our central midfield pairing to give the team more energy.
It's only when the tide goes out that you can see who's been swimming naked.
Mr Bond you have three more games before the tide goes out.
Nigel Clough the ex england striker has done a wonderful job at Burton Albion..he would jump at the chance to manage Bournemouth. Messrs Bond and Newman are two ex defenders. How can we expect them to identify and coach strikers.
ITS GOALS WE NEED!
The solution to our predicament is straightforward and i am surprised no one else is picking up on this.
When we have the ball virtually every player is looking for Anderton.
As the opposing manager i would just get the players to stay in front of Anderton and wait for his legs to tire around 35-40 minutes.Then the rest of the game is ours.
Bond needs to either rip up Anderton's contract and use the money to bring in a striker and left midfield player or only use Anderton as an impact player from the bench when we have two strikers up front for him to pass to.
Cooper should revert to right back, with Bartley and Hollands our central midfield pairing to give the team more energy.
It's only when the tide goes out that you can see who's been swimming naked.
Mr Bond you have three more games before the tide goes out.
Nigel Clough the ex england striker has done a wonderful job at Burton Albion..he would jump at the chance to manage Bournemouth. Messrs Bond and Newman are two ex defenders. How can we expect them to identify and coach strikers.
ITS GOALS WE NEED!
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 12:32pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Change of subject anyone going to the 20/20 cricket today?
Change of subject anyone going to the 20/20 cricket today?
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 12:34pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
He probably is and also Baker has no money to pay him off.[/quote] no need to pay him off, you give him garden leave or a job elsewhere in the club, as I said before it's not all down to money.
AFCB The Only wrote:
He probably is and also Baker has no money to pay him off.
no need to pay him off, you give him garden leave or a job elsewhere in the club, as I said before it's not all down to money.
Posted by: pooleboy, Poole on 12:54pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Change of subject anyone going to the 20/20 cricket today?[/quote] Oh, is that today? I must have missed all that publicity. If they'd marketed it properly they would have probably got quite a few new people go along who have never been to DC before. I haven't heard a thing about it except for line up list about 2 weeks ago. Air show, on the other hand, you can't get away from.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Change of subject anyone going to the 20/20 cricket today?
Oh, is that today? I must have missed all that publicity. If they'd marketed it properly they would have probably got quite a few new people go along who have never been to DC before. I haven't heard a thing about it except for line up list about 2 weeks ago. Air show, on the other hand, you can't get away from.
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 1:13pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Folks, put yourself in the players’ position. Most of them have had a 20% pay cut for dropping into league two and the others who are being signed come because they have little left to give elsewhere thus no one else want them. The loanees are the only players who have been making an effort on the pitch. If you or me had to take a 20% pay cut we too would be reluctant to give our all for that kind of treatment. Whilst it may not be the only contributor to the poor performance it is a reasonable assumption to make. Sure thy signed up to it but when there is no one else to take your place if you don’t perform there is little incentive to do better. I felt very sorry for the guy who brought his two boys on Saturday trying to teach them to support their local team first before opting for a premiership one I do hope that he will come back and give the team another chance but I doubt it.
Folks, put yourself in the players’ position. Most of them have had a 20% pay cut for dropping into league two and the others who are being signed come because they have little left to give elsewhere thus no one else want them. The loanees are the only players who have been making an effort on the pitch. If you or me had to take a 20% pay cut we too would be reluctant to give our all for that kind of treatment. Whilst it may not be the only contributor to the poor performance it is a reasonable assumption to make. Sure thy signed up to it but when there is no one else to take your place if you don’t perform there is little incentive to do better. I felt very sorry for the guy who brought his two boys on Saturday trying to teach them to support their local team first before opting for a premiership one I do hope that he will come back and give the team another chance but I doubt it.
Posted by: wheelbarrow7, christchurch on 1:30pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things:
lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things:
lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 1:34pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote:
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things:
lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] We have had that size of crowd for more than 10-20 years it's not a recent thing, Bournemouth has never had big crowds, we only were getting 8-9k when we were in the what is now the Championship. The performances of late have been down to the manager, we had other managers with the same crowds and lack of money do much better look at Harry for an example, we had nothing to spend on players even back then, sorry to say but Bond just isn't working out in his job, and if you want bigger crowds you have to give them something worth paying for, that hasn't happened under Bond much either.
wheelbarrow7 wrote:
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things:
lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
We have had that size of crowd for more than 10-20 years it's not a recent thing, Bournemouth has never had big crowds, we only were getting 8-9k when we were in the what is now the Championship. The performances of late have been down to the manager, we had other managers with the same crowds and lack of money do much better look at Harry for an example, we had nothing to spend on players even back then, sorry to say but Bond just isn't working out in his job, and if you want bigger crowds you have to give them something worth paying for, that hasn't happened under Bond much either.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 1:37pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]lferrone[/bold] wrote:
Folks, put yourself in the players’ position. Most of them have had a 20% pay cut for dropping into league two and the others who are being signed come because they have little left to give elsewhere thus no one else want them. The loanees are the only players who have been making an effort on the pitch. If you or me had to take a 20% pay cut we too would be reluctant to give our all for that kind of treatment. Whilst it may not be the only contributor to the poor performance it is a reasonable assumption to make. Sure thy signed up to it but when there is no one else to take your place if you don’t perform there is little incentive to do better. I felt very sorry for the guy who brought his two boys on Saturday trying to teach them to support their local team first before opting for a premiership one I do hope that he will come back and give the team another chance but I doubt it.[/quote] How many players do you know of that have had a 20% pay cut this season? Cummings and Kuffour are the only ones I know of, the others could have left they were not under contract so no pay cut for them, I understand where you are coming from but there were only the 2 that I am aware of.
lferrone wrote:
Folks, put yourself in the players’ position. Most of them have had a 20% pay cut for dropping into league two and the others who are being signed come because they have little left to give elsewhere thus no one else want them. The loanees are the only players who have been making an effort on the pitch. If you or me had to take a 20% pay cut we too would be reluctant to give our all for that kind of treatment. Whilst it may not be the only contributor to the poor performance it is a reasonable assumption to make. Sure thy signed up to it but when there is no one else to take your place if you don’t perform there is little incentive to do better. I felt very sorry for the guy who brought his two boys on Saturday trying to teach them to support their local team first before opting for a premiership one I do hope that he will come back and give the team another chance but I doubt it.
How many players do you know of that have had a 20% pay cut this season? Cummings and Kuffour are the only ones I know of, the others could have left they were not under contract so no pay cut for them, I understand where you are coming from but there were only the 2 that I am aware of.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 2:44pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]pooleboy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote: Change of subject anyone going to the 20/20 cricket today?[/quote] Oh, is that today? I must have missed all that publicity. If they'd marketed it properly they would have probably got quite a few new people go along who have never been to DC before. I haven't heard a thing about it except for line up list about 2 weeks ago. Air show, on the other hand, you can't get away from.[/quote] I had intended to go, but in the absence of anything in the media had forgotten that it was today. It seems that we are owned by a Marketing Company who can't market anything. Things can hard[bold]bold[/bold] ly get worse.
pooleboy wrote:
AFCB The Only wrote: Change of subject anyone going to the 20/20 cricket today?
Oh, is that today? I must have missed all that publicity. If they'd marketed it properly they would have probably got quite a few new people go along who have never been to DC before. I haven't heard a thing about it except for line up list about 2 weeks ago. Air show, on the other hand, you can't get away from.
I had intended to go, but in the absence of anything in the media had forgotten that it was today. It seems that we are owned by a Marketing Company who can't market anything. Things can hard ly get worse.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 3:43pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Onetruefan[/bold] wrote:
Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.[/quote] as long as he has got over those injurys of course
Onetruefan wrote:
Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
as long as he has got over those injurys of course
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 3:47pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]CJR[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote: In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have. The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2. As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP 1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources 2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results 3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone. But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.[/quote] Leon Knight has fallen out with most coaches , why would Bond want to have another problem to manage?[/quote] Perhaps because he is capable of scoring Goals He doesnt seem to be able to manage any of his other problems so one more wont hurt surely
CJR wrote:
AFCB The Only wrote: In my opinion the obvious guy to go for is Leon Knight. Their problem is Bond and Sutton haven't really got the vast contacts they claim to have. The problem we have as a club and supporters is no decent player/s are going to come to a club that has a -15 pts deficit, no money and a clueless coach and is 23rd in league 2. As I have said all along let's get the problems sorted out sooner rather than later. ASAP 1. Owners in who really have the funds and resources 2. We can then afford to release Mr. Bond from his duties and get a manager who can gel the current lads together and get some results 3. Then by the January transfer window we are in better shape to strengthen the squad and get out of the drop zone. But let's not dress this up, one striker whoever he is isn't going to change everything that is wrong with the current set up.
Leon Knight has fallen out with most coaches , why would Bond want to have another problem to manage?
Perhaps because he is capable of scoring Goals He doesnt seem to be able to manage any of his other problems so one more wont hurt surely
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 3:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote:
all this talk of bond out etc just remember how long it took to replace SOD seem to recall no wins in the transition period what bond needs to do is play the strikers he has got and not start them on the bench [/quote] Your right pity they didnt take a bit longer and get someone decent in
alasdair wrote:
all this talk of bond out etc just remember how long it took to replace SOD seem to recall no wins in the transition period what bond needs to do is play the strikers he has got and not start them on the bench
Your right pity they didnt take a bit longer and get someone decent in
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 3:51pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Macca, that's good thinking outside the box. What other role would you have Bond do at the club? No.2?
I've no doubt he's a good No.2 but would he settle for that?
Macca, that's good thinking outside the box. What other role would you have Bond do at the club? No.2?
I've no doubt he's a good No.2 but would he settle for that?
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 3:53pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]CJR[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Onetruefan[/bold] wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.[/quote] dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own[/quote] Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.[/quote] All you here is Pitman cant score because he is on the wing then he cant score when he is up front maybe its true but in that case Bond shouldnt bother picking him until he has someone else with him and then if he doesnt do it he should get rid of him,
In my opinion he hasnt got that nasty streak that a good striker needs
CJR wrote:
john coombes wrote: Onetruefan wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own
Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.
All you here is Pitman cant score because he is on the wing then he cant score when he is up front maybe its true but in that case Bond shouldnt bother picking him until he has someone else with him and then if he doesnt do it he should get rid of him,
In my opinion he hasnt got that nasty streak that a good striker needs
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 3:57pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote: He probably is and also Baker has no money to pay him off.[/quote] no need to pay him off, you give him garden leave or a job elsewhere in the club, as I said before it's not all down to money.[/quote] He could compete with Mostyn for Club Spokesman the choice would be not my fault or no comment or the Kit mans position is still free
macca02 wrote:
AFCB The Only wrote: He probably is and also Baker has no money to pay him off.
no need to pay him off, you give him garden leave or a job elsewhere in the club, as I said before it's not all down to money.
He could compete with Mostyn for Club Spokesman the choice would be not my fault or no comment or the Kit mans position is still free
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 4:01pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote:
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
wheelbarrow7 wrote:
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 4:03pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]lferrone[/bold] wrote: Folks, put yourself in the players’ position. Most of them have had a 20% pay cut for dropping into league two and the others who are being signed come because they have little left to give elsewhere thus no one else want them. The loanees are the only players who have been making an effort on the pitch. If you or me had to take a 20% pay cut we too would be reluctant to give our all for that kind of treatment. Whilst it may not be the only contributor to the poor performance it is a reasonable assumption to make. Sure thy signed up to it but when there is no one else to take your place if you don’t perform there is little incentive to do better. I felt very sorry for the guy who brought his two boys on Saturday trying to teach them to support their local team first before opting for a premiership one I do hope that he will come back and give the team another chance but I doubt it.[/quote] How many players do you know of that have had a 20% pay cut this season? Cummings and Kuffour are the only ones I know of, the others could have left they were not under contract so no pay cut for them, I understand where you are coming from but there were only the 2 that I am aware of.[/quote] soon be only one
macca02 wrote:
lferrone wrote: Folks, put yourself in the players’ position. Most of them have had a 20% pay cut for dropping into league two and the others who are being signed come because they have little left to give elsewhere thus no one else want them. The loanees are the only players who have been making an effort on the pitch. If you or me had to take a 20% pay cut we too would be reluctant to give our all for that kind of treatment. Whilst it may not be the only contributor to the poor performance it is a reasonable assumption to make. Sure thy signed up to it but when there is no one else to take your place if you don’t perform there is little incentive to do better. I felt very sorry for the guy who brought his two boys on Saturday trying to teach them to support their local team first before opting for a premiership one I do hope that he will come back and give the team another chance but I doubt it.
How many players do you know of that have had a 20% pay cut this season? Cummings and Kuffour are the only ones I know of, the others could have left they were not under contract so no pay cut for them, I understand where you are coming from but there were only the 2 that I am aware of.
soon be only one
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 4:14pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]CJR[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Onetruefan[/bold] wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.[/quote] dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own[/quote] Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.[/quote] of course he played badly he was out on his own, he cannot play up front on his own and he is not a winger, give him the support he needs and then judge him
CJR wrote:
john coombes wrote: Onetruefan wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own
Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.
of course he played badly he was out on his own, he cannot play up front on his own and he is not a winger, give him the support he needs and then judge him
Posted by: WIGGINS, BOURNEMOUTH on 4:20pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote:
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] They're lucky they get that much support, all things considered.
wheelbarrow7 wrote:
Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
They're lucky they get that much support, all things considered.
Posted by: ross, christchurch on 4:25pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Nick71[/bold] wrote:
Having blamed everyone else associated with the Bournemouth for his lack of success, now Bond is putting players of far flung clubs at fault. The one thing that Kevin Bond tries really hard at; attempting to publicise his excuses in advance of his failure. [/quote] and the next thing you know people will be moaning that the club does not let you know whats going on.
Nick71 wrote:
Having blamed everyone else associated with the Bournemouth for his lack of success, now Bond is putting players of far flung clubs at fault. The one thing that Kevin Bond tries really hard at; attempting to publicise his excuses in advance of his failure.
and the next thing you know people will be moaning that the club does not let you know whats going on.
Posted by: football, kinson on 5:13pm Mon 25 Aug 08
we got three defenders as coaches and we cant defend.we need points quickly so bond decide to be nice and positive and go one up front sort it out bond before we end up in the conference.
we got three defenders as coaches and we cant defend.we need points quickly so bond decide to be nice and positive and go one up front sort it out bond before we end up in the conference.
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 5:43pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.[/quote] kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff
kevvo wrote:
wheelbarrow7 wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 6:04pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.[/quote] kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff[/quote] Haven't we been over this numerous times, we know what our gates are, they have been the same for years, what good is there in what if, we have to make it work with what we have.
alasdair wrote:
kevvo wrote:
wheelbarrow7 wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff
Haven't we been over this numerous times, we know what our gates are, they have been the same for years, what good is there in what if, we have to make it work with what we have.
Posted by: ian4, Various on 6:17pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]afcbjohn[/bold] wrote: I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.[/quote] He's the right age for our team, we wouldn't want bring in a young player would we? (I am being ironic by the way). John Hartson would probably be more suited to a different role don't you think?[/quote] I think someone's a bit confused. We've got a squad of kids with 3 or 4 experienced players. A bit more experience would certainly be more than welcome if he's up to the rigours of league football still.
macca02 wrote:
afcbjohn wrote: I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.
He's the right age for our team, we wouldn't want bring in a young player would we? (I am being ironic by the way). John Hartson would probably be more suited to a different role don't you think?
I think someone's a bit confused. We've got a squad of kids with 3 or 4 experienced players. A bit more experience would certainly be more than welcome if he's up to the rigours of league football still.
Posted by: ian4, Various on 6:23pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
Corr looks like the sort of Player Bond would sign never scored anywhere on his loans didnt score in 18 games over 2 seasons at Sheffield Wednesday but to be fair got 8 for Swindon but career plagued by persistant injury. Should fit in here well[/quote] Corr has been one of the most impressive strikers to play at Dean Court over the last few seasons and I'm surprised to see his record is as it is. If we could keep him fit though he would be a very handy addition.
At least you aren't among the legions of our fans who are excessively anti-Pitman. He's only a youngster and has come on leaps and bounds over the summer to be one of our better players in the start to this season. People should get off his back and we will reap the rewards. He needs a strike partner though.
kevvo wrote:
Corr looks like the sort of Player Bond would sign never scored anywhere on his loans didnt score in 18 games over 2 seasons at Sheffield Wednesday but to be fair got 8 for Swindon but career plagued by persistant injury. Should fit in here well
Corr has been one of the most impressive strikers to play at Dean Court over the last few seasons and I'm surprised to see his record is as it is. If we could keep him fit though he would be a very handy addition.
At least you aren't among the legions of our fans who are excessively anti-Pitman. He's only a youngster and has come on leaps and bounds over the summer to be one of our better players in the start to this season. People should get off his back and we will reap the rewards. He needs a strike partner though.
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 6:28pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.[/quote] kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff[/quote] Haven't we been over this numerous times, we know what our gates are, they have been the same for years, what good is there in what if, we have to make it work with what we have. [/quote] macca what can we do to get the fair weather supporters back ? where are they on a cold and wet jan afternoon
macca02 wrote:
alasdair wrote: kevvo wrote: wheelbarrow7 wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff
Haven't we been over this numerous times, we know what our gates are, they have been the same for years, what good is there in what if, we have to make it work with what we have.
macca what can we do to get the fair weather supporters back ? where are they on a cold and wet jan afternoon
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 6:29pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.[/quote] kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff[/quote] Haven't we been over this numerous times, we know what our gates are, they have been the same for years, what good is there in what if, we have to make it work with what we have. [/quote] Maybe Wheelbarrow7 would like to join the rest of us by starting to come to watch games and support the team instead of spending 24/7 in front of the PC!
macca02 wrote:
alasdair wrote: kevvo wrote: wheelbarrow7 wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff
Haven't we been over this numerous times, we know what our gates are, they have been the same for years, what good is there in what if, we have to make it work with what we have.
Maybe Wheelbarrow7 would like to join the rest of us by starting to come to watch games and support the team instead of spending 24/7 in front of the PC!
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 6:56pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]CJR[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Onetruefan[/bold] wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.[/quote] dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own[/quote] Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.[/quote] of course he played badly he was out on his own, he cannot play up front on his own and he is not a winger, give him the support he needs and then judge him [/quote] I take your point but we can only judge him on his performances and Yes he did look better in pre season against non league and weakened friendly Teams I just havnt seen what you have seen YET but he wont get his chance if Bond keeps two strikers on the bench so it Bond that needs to support him not us.
john coombes wrote:
CJR wrote: john coombes wrote: Onetruefan wrote: Out of Connell or Barry Corr, I reckon Corr would be by far the better signing. Could be really useful for us. He is 6ft 5, and a bit Crouch-like. This could be just what we need. Someone to hold the ball up front for us, and allow others to join the attack. Exactly what Pitman can't do.
dont blame Pitman for not being able to a job that he is not suited for, put a big man alongside Pitman and he will score goals, the blame must lie with the manager who puts him up there on his own
Pitman is not good enough. Where I sit on a Saturday most of those around me wanted him off? 5000 supporters with 5000 opinions.
of course he played badly he was out on his own, he cannot play up front on his own and he is not a winger, give him the support he needs and then judge him
I take your point but we can only judge him on his performances and Yes he did look better in pre season against non league and weakened friendly Teams I just havnt seen what you have seen YET but he wont get his chance if Bond keeps two strikers on the bench so it Bond that needs to support him not us.
Posted by: afcbjohn, poole on 6:59pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ian4[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]afcbjohn[/bold] wrote: I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.[/quote] He's the right age for our team, we wouldn't want bring in a young player would we? (I am being ironic by the way). John Hartson would probably be more suited to a different role don't you think?[/quote] I think someone's a bit confused. We've got a squad of kids with 3 or 4 experienced players. A bit more experience would certainly be more than welcome if he's up to the rigours of league football still.[/quote] Thanks Ian4
Thats my point we need strong old pros with the good youth. Harry did that when he was here
ian4 wrote:
macca02 wrote:
afcbjohn wrote: I know he maybe a little old but i think John Hartson could bring some bite to are forward line it was reported a couple of weeks ago he was looking for a club again, plus he will put some fight into the other players, just an idea what do you all think.
He's the right age for our team, we wouldn't want bring in a young player would we? (I am being ironic by the way). John Hartson would probably be more suited to a different role don't you think?
I think someone's a bit confused. We've got a squad of kids with 3 or 4 experienced players. A bit more experience would certainly be more than welcome if he's up to the rigours of league football still.
Thanks Ian4
Thats my point we need strong old pros with the good youth. Harry did that when he was here
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 7:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]wheelbarrow7[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.[/quote] Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.[/quote] kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff[/quote] All very well but its a bloody good job they didnt turn up to see what it was like on Saturday we would never have seen them again. Sorry the rot will only stop when the Team start trying and the Manager learns that Football is in the entertainment business People cant say low attendances create bad teams Bournemouth has allways been a badly supported Team its the kind of area it is It would be nice to get a thousand or so more which with a few results is feasable but we need a Wmbley Final or at least a big Team in the Cup to get really big gates. Doesnt mean the Team wont operform though surely
alasdair wrote:
kevvo wrote: wheelbarrow7 wrote: Bournemouth's performance of late can be put down to two things: lack of money and lack of intrest/support from the home town. Attendance of 5,350 in a catchment area the size of Bournemouth is dismal.
Oh so no responsibility for the Manager then its all our fault as usual so how come Teams with Lower attendances play better than us. What nonsense.
kevvo i see the point the question we need to ask is where are the fair weather supporters,even if a small percentage of the 30000 we took to wembly and cardiff turned up in addition to us the die hard fans who turn up week in week out rain or shine dismal form come what may our gate reciepts would by higher thus more funds available for the club to use to bring in playersyes this season we have been hit with the points deduction and have started of poorly but money talks in football we need to get these so called supporters back as wheelbarrow7 has stated the catchment area is big and we know full well the amount we took to wembly and cardiff
All very well but its a bloody good job they didnt turn up to see what it was like on Saturday we would never have seen them again. Sorry the rot will only stop when the Team start trying and the Manager learns that Football i
