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CITY SICKENER FOR CHERRIES
RYAN Harley grabbed the only goal of an uninspiring contest as Cherries' nine-match unbeaten league run came to a shuddering end at the hands of Exeter today.
Harley netted midway through the second half to hand the newly-promoted Devon outfit their first victory since their return to the Football League following a five-year exile.
Cherries boss Kevin Bond made no fewer than four changes to his starting line-up with his threadbare squad ravaged by injury.
Goalkeeper Shwan Jalal, defender Joel Ward and striker Jo Kuffour were ruled out by an assortment of ailments, while Sammy Igoe dropped down to the bench.
Ryan Pryce and Jason Pearce replaced Jalal and Ward, respectively, while Danny Hollands made a welcome return and new signing Scott Wagstaff was handed his debut.
Winger Wagstaff, on loan from Charlton, almost made a dream start but just failed to connect with Brett Pitman's low cross as Cherries mounted their first attack after five minutes.
But the Grecians also created an early chance when Adam Stansfield's effort trickled inches past the post after the visitors had scythed open the Cherries defence.
In a first half high on endeavour but low on goalscoring opportunities, Harley's 37th-minute drive was the only shot on target during the opening period.
The second half continued in much the same vein with a shot from Wagstaff and a prod over the crossbar by Matt Taylor failing to trouble the scorers.
Harley finally made the breakthrough when he beat Pryce with a low, angled drive after being sent scampering down the left flank by Rob Edwards's pass in the 67th minute.
And the visitors went close to doubling their lead just seconds later when Dean Moxey's centre flashed across the face of the goalmouth with Stansfield almost converting.
As Cherries finally found their shooting boots, Pitman was denied by a fine save from Paul Jones, the goalkeeper diving to his right to parry the striker's fierce low shot.
Cherries had a penalty claim turned down in the closing stages when Igoe's cross appeared to strike the hand of Exeter skipper Dan Seaborne.
Cherries (4-4-1-1): Pryce; Bradbury, Guyett (Sappleton, 57), Pearce, Cummings; Wagstaff (Igoe, 78), Anderton (Lindfield, 70), Cooper, Bartley; Hollands, Pitman.
Unused subs: McQuoid, Partington.
Booked: Bradbury.
Exeter City (3-5-2): Jones; Tully, Seaborne, Taylor, Friend; Harley, Edwards, Gill; Logan (Moxey, 65), Stansfield (McAllister, 90), Stewart.
Unused subs: Panther, Sercombe, Marriott (g/k).
Booked: Seaborne, Moxey.
Referee: James Linington (Isle of Wight).
Attendance: 5,350.
4:50pm Saturday 23rd August 2008
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CommentPosted by: flyingleaper, el segundo ca.USA on 4:56pm Sat 23 Aug 08
didnttake long to print that did u
didnttake long to print that did u
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 4:59pm Sat 23 Aug 08
please do not have a go at me
baker out with the old if you dont turn things around now we are destined for the conference rotherham won again today
please do not have a go at me
baker out with the old if you dont turn things around now we are destined for the conference rotherham won again today
Posted by: happymool, Kent on 5:08pm Sat 23 Aug 08
A bit worrying even after 3 games as Rotherham are already 7 points ahead of us. If we can't start improving and actually find someone that can hit the back of the net regularly we could be as good as down by Christmas!!
A bit worrying even after 3 games as Rotherham are already 7 points ahead of us. If we can't start improving and actually find someone that can hit the back of the net regularly we could be as good as down by Christmas!!
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 5:32pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Bright New Future.
Mr Baker, you better take any offers that might come your way!
The club needs money and lots of it, Mr B I don't think you do??
Bright New Future.
Mr Baker, you better take any offers that might come your way!
The club needs money and lots of it, Mr B I don't think you do??
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 5:38pm Sat 23 Aug 08
another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch
another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch
Posted by: mike, poole on 5:51pm Sat 23 Aug 08
I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing.
No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?
I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing.
No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?
Posted by: paul, Wimborne on 6:00pm Sat 23 Aug 08
I AGREE. WE SEEM TO JUST GO OUT THERE TO HAVE A GAME OF FOOTBALL (LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOUR A KID)INSTEAD OF GOING OUT THEIR TO DOMINATE AND WIN. BMOUTH NEED TO BE MORE CONTROLLING AND CONFIDENTLY TAKE THE BALL UPFRONT IN FORCE AND SCORE!!!
I AGREE. WE SEEM TO JUST GO OUT THERE TO HAVE A GAME OF FOOTBALL (LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOUR A KID)INSTEAD OF GOING OUT THEIR TO DOMINATE AND WIN. BMOUTH NEED TO BE MORE CONTROLLING AND CONFIDENTLY TAKE THE BALL UPFRONT IN FORCE AND SCORE!!!
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 6:01pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch[/quote] we are a team made up of loan players and will be for the foreseeable future how can a team gel as a unit with so many comings and goings and sadly i see it being like this all season unless we can get more perminant players in as i said out with the old sorry same story as last season early form and administration got us relegated we have already lost more points than we did last season and the form is the same does not bode well at all
muffin the mule wrote:
another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch
we are a team made up of loan players and will be for the foreseeable future how can a team gel as a unit with so many comings and goings and sadly i see it being like this all season unless we can get more perminant players in as i said out with the old sorry same story as last season early form and administration got us relegated we have already lost more points than we did last season and the form is the same does not bode well at all
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 6:04pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Mr Baker.
TAKE THE OFFER ASAP!!!!!
CHESTER NEED YOU.
Mr Baker.
TAKE THE OFFER ASAP!!!!!
CHESTER NEED YOU.
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 6:07pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Throopmill[/bold] wrote:
Mr Baker. TAKE THE OFFER ASAP!!!!! CHESTER NEED YOU.[/quote] thats one of our only saving graces chester are leaking more goals than a leaky thing in leaks ville lets hope they continue there losing form
Throopmill wrote:
Mr Baker. TAKE THE OFFER ASAP!!!!! CHESTER NEED YOU.
thats one of our only saving graces chester are leaking more goals than a leaky thing in leaks ville lets hope they continue there losing form
Posted by: Tel3977, Poole on 6:08pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Another rubbish performance do us all a favour knock Dean Court down and build some decent flats down by Xmas out of business end of season
Another rubbish performance do us all a favour knock Dean Court down and build some decent flats down by Xmas out of business end of season
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 6:14pm Sat 23 Aug 08
There is a big rumor going around today that there is another party that has already talked and met with Sport 6 and they have offered them a profitable exit and more importantly substantial money to strengthen the team short term and funds to stabalise the clubs situation.
BAKER TAKE IT NOW, FOR YOUR, THE SUPPORTERS AND THIS CLUBS SAKE
There is a big rumor going around today that there is another party that has already talked and met with Sport 6 and they have offered them a profitable exit and more importantly substantial money to strengthen the team short term and funds to stabalise the clubs situation.
BAKER TAKE IT NOW, FOR YOUR, THE SUPPORTERS AND THIS CLUBS SAKE
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 6:17pm Sat 23 Aug 08
we dont need short term finacial stability we need long term
and we need perminant players not a team made up of loanees as i previously posted how can a team gel with so many comings and goings
we dont need short term finacial stability we need long term
and we need perminant players not a team made up of loanees as i previously posted how can a team gel with so many comings and goings
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 6:19pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
There is a big rumor going around today that there is another party that has already talked and met with Sport 6 and they have offered them a profitable exit and more importantly substantial money to strengthen the team short term and funds to stabalise the clubs situation. BAKER TAKE IT NOW, FOR YOUR, THE SUPPORTERS AND THIS CLUBS SAKE[/quote] Ditto and the offer it would seem is VERY good for the clubs long term future!
Baker would be very foolish not to take it if it's that firm an offer!
Lots of Money !
AFCB The Only wrote:
There is a big rumor going around today that there is another party that has already talked and met with Sport 6 and they have offered them a profitable exit and more importantly substantial money to strengthen the team short term and funds to stabalise the clubs situation. BAKER TAKE IT NOW, FOR YOUR, THE SUPPORTERS AND THIS CLUBS SAKE
Ditto and the offer it would seem is VERY good for the clubs long term future!
Baker would be very foolish not to take it if it's that firm an offer!
Lots of Money !
Posted by: lferrone, Boscombe East on 6:20pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mike[/bold] wrote:
I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing. No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?[/quote] 100% agree with your sentiments. I am not sure that those players who stayed on from last season are reflecting the 20% wage drop out on the field I hope not but there appears to be some apathy setting in.
mike wrote:
I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing. No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?
100% agree with your sentiments. I am not sure that those players who stayed on from last season are reflecting the 20% wage drop out on the field I hope not but there appears to be some apathy setting in.
Posted by: Bosskom, westbourne on 6:23pm Sat 23 Aug 08
How much more of this ***** are we supposed to take ? Steve Cotterill anyone ?
How much more of this ***** are we supposed to take ? Steve Cotterill anyone ?
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 6:38pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Apparently it's a VERY good offer which Sport 6 have a limited time to accept otherwise the other party walk away.
Wasn't Baker quoted on record saying that if any better offer came in for the future of the club he wouldn't stand in their way ?
I've also heard that the 20/20 cricket day planned for Monday has sold less than 100 tickets and Saverimutto's apparent experise in commercial deals, will actually cost the club to stage the match.
Does anyone out there have confidence in these guys?
If we get the changes in place now at least we have a chance of avoiding non league football.
BAKER TAKE THE OFFER
Apparently it's a VERY good offer which Sport 6 have a limited time to accept otherwise the other party walk away.
Wasn't Baker quoted on record saying that if any better offer came in for the future of the club he wouldn't stand in their way ?
I've also heard that the 20/20 cricket day planned for Monday has sold less than 100 tickets and Saverimutto's apparent experise in commercial deals, will actually cost the club to stage the match.
Does anyone out there have confidence in these guys?
If we get the changes in place now at least we have a chance of avoiding non league football.
BAKER TAKE THE OFFER
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 6:42pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Apparently it's a VERY good offer which Sport 6 have a limited time to accept otherwise the other party walk away. Wasn't Baker quoted on record saying that if any better offer came in for the future of the club he wouldn't stand in their way ? I've also heard that the 20/20 cricket day planned for Monday has sold less than 100 tickets and Saverimutto's apparent experise in commercial deals, will actually cost the club to stage the match. Does anyone out there have confidence in these guys? If we get the changes in place now at least we have a chance of avoiding non league football. BAKER TAKE THE OFFER[/quote] No Confidence at all.
Hope they play with a straight bat on Monday while Baker takes the offer!
AFCB The Only wrote:
Apparently it's a VERY good offer which Sport 6 have a limited time to accept otherwise the other party walk away. Wasn't Baker quoted on record saying that if any better offer came in for the future of the club he wouldn't stand in their way ? I've also heard that the 20/20 cricket day planned for Monday has sold less than 100 tickets and Saverimutto's apparent experise in commercial deals, will actually cost the club to stage the match. Does anyone out there have confidence in these guys? If we get the changes in place now at least we have a chance of avoiding non league football. BAKER TAKE THE OFFER
No Confidence at all.
Hope they play with a straight bat on Monday while Baker takes the offer!
Posted by: Monty_9, Bournemouth on 6:46pm Sat 23 Aug 08
apsolutely awful...im a first time poster long time reader...i dont have anything positive to say about that performance...i read all the posts and i dont agree with all the moaners but today was awful...playing one up front at home is soo negative also when you consider exeter only came up last year...i am not in favour of moaning at bond but there were no tactics today it seemed...it was awful...big change needed to avoid relehation...
apsolutely awful...im a first time poster long time reader...i dont have anything positive to say about that performance...i read all the posts and i dont agree with all the moaners but today was awful...playing one up front at home is soo negative also when you consider exeter only came up last year...i am not in favour of moaning at bond but there were no tactics today it seemed...it was awful...big change needed to avoid relehation...
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 6:47pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]lferrone[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mike[/bold] wrote: I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing. No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?[/quote] 100% agree with your sentiments. I am not sure that those players who stayed on from last season are reflecting the 20% wage drop out on the field I hope not but there appears to be some apathy setting in.[/quote] it looked like there were 10 men out there with lead boots on thankfully Pryce didnt have any on.I thought we were a passimg team not a hoof it up there team,thats what we being told in the close season by KB.Im B.T.I.D. but ive never come away from a game so frustrated and p----d off since Alec Stocks era.
lferrone wrote:
mike wrote: I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing. No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?
100% agree with your sentiments. I am not sure that those players who stayed on from last season are reflecting the 20% wage drop out on the field I hope not but there appears to be some apathy setting in.
it looked like there were 10 men out there with lead boots on thankfully Pryce didnt have any on.I thought we were a passimg team not a hoof it up there team,thats what we being told in the close season by KB.Im B.T.I.D. but ive never come away from a game so frustrated and p----d off since Alec Stocks era.
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 6:58pm Sat 23 Aug 08
and whats the problem with the shop.i was going to buy 2 shirts today thats £80 weve lost out in revenue for the club,obviously sport 6 have more money than were led to believe.soon were be the laughing stock of the league as the fans with old shirts.How about asking for volunteers to serve at the bars im sure they will be able to increase sales,2 staff at the bar hasn`t been enough for the last 2 games in the main stand.Jesus im getting frustrated even more,em going out to have a pint b4 i burst.
and whats the problem with the shop.i was going to buy 2 shirts today thats £80 weve lost out in revenue for the club,obviously sport 6 have more money than were led to believe.soon were be the laughing stock of the league as the fans with old shirts.How about asking for volunteers to serve at the bars im sure they will be able to increase sales,2 staff at the bar hasn`t been enough for the last 2 games in the main stand.Jesus im getting frustrated even more,em going out to have a pint b4 i burst.
Posted by: gary, Bournemouth on 7:13pm Sat 23 Aug 08
an absolutely dire performance. not a single player showed any will to win and not half the commitment that exeter showed.... fully deserved to be booed off at the end
an absolutely dire performance. not a single player showed any will to win and not half the commitment that exeter showed.... fully deserved to be booed off at the end
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 7:23pm Sat 23 Aug 08
it is very worrying that Bond would appear to me making the same mistakes as last season, I am against the continual use of loan players but if you sign them then play them, there have been plenty of experienced strikers available this season we just do not look in the right areas, it is now time for the owners to start to operate the club properly the shop should now be open if there is a reason then tell us
it is very worrying that Bond would appear to me making the same mistakes as last season, I am against the continual use of loan players but if you sign them then play them, there have been plenty of experienced strikers available this season we just do not look in the right areas, it is now time for the owners to start to operate the club properly the shop should now be open if there is a reason then tell us
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 7:24pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Macca has gone quiet I was looking forward to hear the official Sport 6 party line????
Macca has gone quiet I was looking forward to hear the official Sport 6 party line????
Posted by: Nickolai, Bournemouth on 7:59pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote:
it is very worrying that Bond would appear to me making the same mistakes as last season, I am against the continual use of loan players but if you sign them then play them, there have been plenty of experienced strikers available this season we just do not look in the right areas, it is now time for the owners to start to operate the club properly the shop should now be open if there is a reason then tell us[/quote] Exactly - we are no different to the majority of last season, utterly awful.
Something needs to be done and fast.
One upfront at home when we are on minus fifteen points is ludicrous.
No idea at all.
john coombes wrote:
it is very worrying that Bond would appear to me making the same mistakes as last season, I am against the continual use of loan players but if you sign them then play them, there have been plenty of experienced strikers available this season we just do not look in the right areas, it is now time for the owners to start to operate the club properly the shop should now be open if there is a reason then tell us
Exactly - we are no different to the majority of last season, utterly awful.
Something needs to be done and fast.
One upfront at home when we are on minus fifteen points is ludicrous.
No idea at all.
Posted by: matt1981, merley on 8:04pm Sat 23 Aug 08
please take the offer Mr Baker and please take Mr Bond with you.
today was the worst performance i can remember and ive been going for 20 years. Brett Pitman is not good enough for this league so to play him as a loan striker is totally unbelievable.
please take the offer Mr Baker and please take Mr Bond with you.
today was the worst performance i can remember and ive been going for 20 years. Brett Pitman is not good enough for this league so to play him as a loan striker is totally unbelievable.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 8:36pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[bold]bold[/bold] A truly dire performance, the first shot on goal not until the 70 minute and that after Sapperton made a belated entrance, One thing is sure Pitman hasn't either the pace or the physical presence to be the lone striker. There was a steady stream of supporters leaving ten minutes before the end. On this basis we would struggle in the Conference.
A truly dire performance, the first shot on goal not until the 70 minute and that after Sapperton made a belated entrance, One thing is sure Pitman hasn't either the pace or the physical presence to be the lone striker. There was a steady stream of supporters leaving ten minutes before the end. On this basis we would struggle in the Conference.
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 8:48pm Sat 23 Aug 08
New Owners for September and a fresh start, ASAP please?
Bright New Future Mr Baker?
Mr B, did you read the small print when you bought this lot ready for the knackers yard?
Fred Karno could do better that this shower today!
New Owners for September and a fresh start, ASAP please?
Bright New Future Mr Baker?
Mr B, did you read the small print when you bought this lot ready for the knackers yard?
Fred Karno could do better that this shower today!
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 8:50pm Sat 23 Aug 08
obviously no one remembers alec stock
obviously no one remembers alec stock
Posted by: pippam, winton on 9:00pm Sat 23 Aug 08
possibly the worst performance i have ever seen.exeter were absolute rubbish and we were worse. i think im going to start eating humble pie as i always said give bond a chance. time for bond to go or money on permanate players to made avalible.
possibly the worst performance i have ever seen.exeter were absolute rubbish and we were worse. i think im going to start eating humble pie as i always said give bond a chance. time for bond to go or money on permanate players to made avalible.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 9:06pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Mr. Baker should be made accountable for his "bright new future" and "funds available speach". After the eurphia of getting the FL share back.
He clearly hasn't got the funds and apparently another party has met with Sport 6 and has put an offer in for Sport 6 to exit and to put in money immeditely to assist our survival efforts.
If he had any honour and welfare for our club at heart he should take the offer and step aside quickly so that they can can new palyers in and new coaching staff.
I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys.
Sounds harsh but we are talking league football vs. non league football. This is extremely serious, we are already 7 pts adrift.
SO BAKER STEP ASIDE NOW
Mr. Baker should be made accountable for his "bright new future" and "funds available speach". After the eurphia of getting the FL share back.
He clearly hasn't got the funds and apparently another party has met with Sport 6 and has put an offer in for Sport 6 to exit and to put in money immeditely to assist our survival efforts.
If he had any honour and welfare for our club at heart he should take the offer and step aside quickly so that they can can new palyers in and new coaching staff.
I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys.
Sounds harsh but we are talking league football vs. non league football. This is extremely serious, we are already 7 pts adrift.
SO BAKER STEP ASIDE NOW
Posted by: mccherry, dorset on 9:21pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Took the kids today for the first time for a while . Ive allways considered it a success as a parent that ive managed to steer them away from being glory hunting premiership team supporters . Could be a bit more difficult after today . As my youngest pointed out today "that number 9 isnt very good is he " . Hope Bonds got an eight year old at home who can point out the obvious to him !!
Took the kids today for the first time for a while . Ive allways considered it a success as a parent that ive managed to steer them away from being glory hunting premiership team supporters . Could be a bit more difficult after today . As my youngest pointed out today "that number 9 isnt very good is he " . Hope Bonds got an eight year old at home who can point out the obvious to him !!
Posted by: Plastic, eaststand on 9:37pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Bartley earned his wages.
No will to win, no contribution from the tired looking senior players, negative tactics, no shots on goal.
6 match ultimatum worked last time in League 2.
Bartley earned his wages.
No will to win, no contribution from the tired looking senior players, negative tactics, no shots on goal.
6 match ultimatum worked last time in League 2.
Posted by: uticad, Sunny Bormuff!! on 9:41pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Very very dissapointed with the 'display' of 'football' on show today. Exeter were poor, but we were dire. Rotherham now 7 points clear of us, with 3 games played. I see no hope if we carry on like this.
By Christmas it will all be over. Sad, but true........
Very very dissapointed with the 'display' of 'football' on show today. Exeter were poor, but we were dire. Rotherham now 7 points clear of us, with 3 games played. I see no hope if we carry on like this.
By Christmas it will all be over. Sad, but true........
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 11:36pm Sat 23 Aug 08
alec stock!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: hillbillys of wareham, wareham on 11:43pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]hillbillys of wareham[/bold] wrote:
alec stock!!!!!!!!!![/quote] he had a very nice daughter who ran the embassy youth club in moordown,wanted to take her round the back of the bingo hall,looked abit like a slimmer version of Fern Britten or Penny on G.M.T.V. Lush in my day....
hillbillys of wareham wrote:
alec stock!!!!!!!!!!
he had a very nice daughter who ran the embassy youth club in moordown,wanted to take her round the back of the bingo hall,looked abit like a slimmer version of Fern Britten or Penny on G.M.T.V. Lush in my day....
Posted by: Throopmill, Mt Everest on 12:48am Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]hillbillys of wareham[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]hillbillys of wareham[/bold] wrote: alec stock!!!!!!!!!![/quote] he had a very nice daughter who ran the embassy youth club in moordown,wanted to take her round the back of the bingo hall,looked abit like a slimmer version of Fern Britten or Penny on G.M.T.V. Lush in my day....[/quote] Did you ?
hillbillys of wareham wrote:
hillbillys of wareham wrote: alec stock!!!!!!!!!!
he had a very nice daughter who ran the embassy youth club in moordown,wanted to take her round the back of the bingo hall,looked abit like a slimmer version of Fern Britten or Penny on G.M.T.V. Lush in my day....
Did you ?
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 8:40am Sun 24 Aug 08
All the evidence was there today. Nothing else needs to be said except:-
Baker, Mostyn and Savvimutto do the decent thing and put the club in the hands of someone who really cares.
Bond do the honest thing and resign on Monday.
Those players who don't have their heart in it (and you know who you are) start looking elsewhere for employment.
All the evidence was there today. Nothing else needs to be said except:-
Baker, Mostyn and Savvimutto do the decent thing and put the club in the hands of someone who really cares.
Bond do the honest thing and resign on Monday.
Those players who don't have their heart in it (and you know who you are) start looking elsewhere for employment.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:52am Sun 24 Aug 08
OK Guys I have stuck up for this lot because they got shot of Mostyn for us and have even gone against what I said last season and tried to see some good in Bond. But I have to say that Yesterday is proberbly the worst performance I have seen since Huddersfield in the Pullis days. I have to agree (becoming a habit now )with John Coombes. I cant see the reasoning for bringing in players on loan to sit on the bench. We essentially started a important home game with zero strikers (unless you count Pitman) when we had two on the bench. What is the point, Now even I think we need a change If this rumour is correct they should sell it cant be anything to do with Mostyn because they said funds would be available. So if its all true (I am suspicious) Thank you Mr Baker for saving the Club make your profit take Good Old Jeff with you and let some real investment come in
OK Guys I have stuck up for this lot because they got shot of Mostyn for us and have even gone against what I said last season and tried to see some good in Bond. But I have to say that Yesterday is proberbly the worst performance I have seen since Huddersfield in the Pullis days. I have to agree (becoming a habit now )with John Coombes. I cant see the reasoning for bringing in players on loan to sit on the bench. We essentially started a important home game with zero strikers (unless you count Pitman) when we had two on the bench. What is the point, Now even I think we need a change If this rumour is correct they should sell it cant be anything to do with Mostyn because they said funds would be available. So if its all true (I am suspicious) Thank you Mr Baker for saving the Club make your profit take Good Old Jeff with you and let some real investment come in
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 8:57am Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]mccherry[/bold] wrote:
Took the kids today for the first time for a while . Ive allways considered it a success as a parent that ive managed to steer them away from being glory hunting premiership team supporters . Could be a bit more difficult after today . As my youngest pointed out today "that number 9 isnt very good is he " . Hope Bonds got an eight year old at home who can point out the obvious to him !! [/quote] THe Club should invite you and your Kids to the Club for the day in way of an apology for putting them through that awfull performance. Seems they can already recognise a bad footballer though. Perhaps Bondy should use them as talent scouts. Seriosly this is one of the things that is seriously wrong with the Club Youngsters need to be encoraged to attend but for that to happen they need to be entertained. Clearly this is not a priority at our Club.
mccherry wrote:
Took the kids today for the first time for a while . Ive allways considered it a success as a parent that ive managed to steer them away from being glory hunting premiership team supporters . Could be a bit more difficult after today . As my youngest pointed out today "that number 9 isnt very good is he " . Hope Bonds got an eight year old at home who can point out the obvious to him !!
THe Club should invite you and your Kids to the Club for the day in way of an apology for putting them through that awfull performance. Seems they can already recognise a bad footballer though. Perhaps Bondy should use them as talent scouts. Seriosly this is one of the things that is seriously wrong with the Club Youngsters need to be encoraged to attend but for that to happen they need to be entertained. Clearly this is not a priority at our Club.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 9:05am Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote: another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch[/quote] we are a team made up of loan players and will be for the foreseeable future how can a team gel as a unit with so many comings and goings and sadly i see it being like this all season unless we can get more perminant players in as i said out with the old sorry same story as last season early form and administration got us relegated we have already lost more points than we did last season and the form is the same does not bode well at all[/quote] Not true - we started with one loan player = Wagstaff - which makes the situation even worse. Only two earned their keep yesterday Bartley and Cummings - and you can excuse Danny Hollands who clearly could not be match fit. Nut the other seven!!!
alasdair wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch
we are a team made up of loan players and will be for the foreseeable future how can a team gel as a unit with so many comings and goings and sadly i see it being like this all season unless we can get more perminant players in as i said out with the old sorry same story as last season early form and administration got us relegated we have already lost more points than we did last season and the form is the same does not bode well at all
Not true - we started with one loan player = Wagstaff - which makes the situation even worse. Only two earned their keep yesterday Bartley and Cummings - and you can excuse Danny Hollands who clearly could not be match fit. Nut the other seven!!!
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 9:26am Sun 24 Aug 08
The message was loud and clear after that performance, it's not working and the chances are running out, what is worse that was the team with only one of the loan players so you can't even blame them. I have said we need to give the new owners time to see what they can do, but if there are these other people (how many times have we heard that one) then if they have the money (which I doubt), then they should step in now before the rot sets in for the season. Bond has proven that the turn around last term was down to the players and not his tactics, if we can't beat teams at home like Exeter then we are at the lowest point in years. They do say though that the night is always darkest just before the dawn, let's hope that rings true, on the positive side there are still 5 or 6 teams who have yet to get a point this season. So Mr Baker we need to see something to improve the team this week, I still don't blame you for this team it's all but the same one from last season and with the mess over the summer we were always going to struggle, what we do need though is something from you that will instill confidence in the supporters otherwise this tide will rapidly turn against you, time to prove yourself.
The message was loud and clear after that performance, it's not working and the chances are running out, what is worse that was the team with only one of the loan players so you can't even blame them. I have said we need to give the new owners time to see what they can do, but if there are these other people (how many times have we heard that one) then if they have the money (which I doubt), then they should step in now before the rot sets in for the season. Bond has proven that the turn around last term was down to the players and not his tactics, if we can't beat teams at home like Exeter then we are at the lowest point in years. They do say though that the night is always darkest just before the dawn, let's hope that rings true, on the positive side there are still 5 or 6 teams who have yet to get a point this season. So Mr Baker we need to see something to improve the team this week, I still don't blame you for this team it's all but the same one from last season and with the mess over the summer we were always going to struggle, what we do need though is something from you that will instill confidence in the supporters otherwise this tide will rapidly turn against you, time to prove yourself.
Posted by: dan, kinson on 9:37am Sun 24 Aug 08
players clearly under pressure, mentally it must be very very difficult to start the season as they have done, you would have to be some team to overcome the deficit and get close to the play offs as it would have to be a massive season to do so, couldn't make the game so can't really say but i did listen, poor performance, i have to say i don't think it helped bringing the keeper in as he did, but injuries are typical as it tests the squad, perhaps we should point the blame at the fuss caused by an absentee yesterday, incidentally bristol rovers scored 6 jo, do they really need you? flu? yes right mate, one more thing lads, 3 games gone and even after next saturdays game and the 2 cup games, rovers and cardiff, we would not have played a 'seasoned' league 2 club in the first 6 games of the season, anyway just a thought.
players clearly under pressure, mentally it must be very very difficult to start the season as they have done, you would have to be some team to overcome the deficit and get close to the play offs as it would have to be a massive season to do so, couldn't make the game so can't really say but i did listen, poor performance, i have to say i don't think it helped bringing the keeper in as he did, but injuries are typical as it tests the squad, perhaps we should point the blame at the fuss caused by an absentee yesterday, incidentally bristol rovers scored 6 jo, do they really need you? flu? yes right mate, one more thing lads, 3 games gone and even after next saturdays game and the 2 cup games, rovers and cardiff, we would not have played a 'seasoned' league 2 club in the first 6 games of the season, anyway just a thought.
Posted by: Nick71, Poole on 9:40am Sun 24 Aug 08
Good point Dan. We have played the 2 sides promoted from the conference and gained only 1 point from the 6 on offer. Oh dear!
Good point Dan. We have played the 2 sides promoted from the conference and gained only 1 point from the 6 on offer. Oh dear!
Posted by: Tom Griffiths., Bransgore. on 10:26am Sun 24 Aug 08
Pretty comprehensive all round summing up of a depressing situation by Macca02, can't think of much to add to that.
With all this talk of the failure of playing one so called striker up front, I would dearly love to see a Manager with the courage to set out a team in the formation it was in the past.
For those unable to remember those wonderful halcyon days of football we had a goalkeeper, two full backs,three in the middle and five up the front, all very sensibly numbered one to eleven, so that we all knew that a no. 9 was called a centre forward and a centre half was a No.5.
Nowadays we have squad numbers from one to twenty six (or more)and nobody knows who is supposed to be doing what?? The norm is to make anything up to ten passes in your own half, before getting across the centre line and having no one up front to complete the object of the whole exercise, to put the ball in the opponent's net. The so called passing game is pretty to watch, but it must have an end product to have any effect on a result. Lack of goals has been a problem at AFCB for several seasons and I believe the passing game,much as we all like to see it, has been somewhat overplayed when we so badly need someone who can find the net on a much more regular basis than we have seen in recent seasons.
Pretty comprehensive all round summing up of a depressing situation by Macca02, can't think of much to add to that.
With all this talk of the failure of playing one so called striker up front, I would dearly love to see a Manager with the courage to set out a team in the formation it was in the past.
For those unable to remember those wonderful halcyon days of football we had a goalkeeper, two full backs,three in the middle and five up the front, all very sensibly numbered one to eleven, so that we all knew that a no. 9 was called a centre forward and a centre half was a No.5.
Nowadays we have squad numbers from one to twenty six (or more)and nobody knows who is supposed to be doing what?? The norm is to make anything up to ten passes in your own half, before getting across the centre line and having no one up front to complete the object of the whole exercise, to put the ball in the opponent's net. The so called passing game is pretty to watch, but it must have an end product to have any effect on a result. Lack of goals has been a problem at AFCB for several seasons and I believe the passing game,much as we all like to see it, has been somewhat overplayed when we so badly need someone who can find the net on a much more regular basis than we have seen in recent seasons.
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX on 10:35am Sun 24 Aug 08
[bold]Andy_roo and Mrs Moaner of Highcliffe[/bold] I notice your comments are missing after all you said about AFCB and how well we will do. Too embarrassed eh?
I did say a new owner will come in and Dean Court Gardens will be built, but you laughed.
Remember -He who laughs last laughs longest!!
Andy_roo and Mrs Moaner of Highcliffe I notice your comments are missing after all you said about AFCB and how well we will do. Too embarrassed eh?
I did say a new owner will come in and Dean Court Gardens will be built, but you laughed.
Remember -He who laughs last laughs longest!!
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 10:42am Sun 24 Aug 08
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 11:07am Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]muffin the mule[/bold] wrote:
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!![/quote] By the sound of it neither were you muffin lol.
muffin the mule wrote:
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!
By the sound of it neither were you muffin lol.
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 11:19am Sun 24 Aug 08
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!
Posted by: Big Rich, Ferndown on 11:54am Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Andy_roo and Mrs Moaner of Highcliffe[/bold] I notice your comments are missing after all you said about AFCB and how well we will do. Too embarrassed eh?
I did say a new owner will come in and Dean Court Gardens will be built, but you laughed.
Remember -He who laughs last laughs longest!!
[/quote] So wheres the gardens then. Been going on about it for ages. Nice to see your laughing. Sadgit. Get a life. Loser
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
Andy_roo and Mrs Moaner of Highcliffe I notice your comments are missing after all you said about AFCB and how well we will do. Too embarrassed eh?
I did say a new owner will come in and Dean Court Gardens will be built, but you laughed.
Remember -He who laughs last laughs longest!!
So wheres the gardens then. Been going on about it for ages. Nice to see your laughing. Sadgit. Get a life. Loser
Posted by: Big Rich, Ferndown on 11:57am Sun 24 Aug 08
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home.
Pitman is just not good enough in million years.
Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide.
Very confusing
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home.
Pitman is just not good enough in million years.
Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide.
Very confusing
Posted by: frankfidler, florida usa on 12:10pm Sun 24 Aug 08
ive been suporting the cherries for nearly 60 years and lived thro all our ups and downs. these times are the worst its ever been. even if new owners come in the transfer window is closed in 7 days time. bond is in an impossible situation and frankly i dont know what the answer is.
ive been suporting the cherries for nearly 60 years and lived thro all our ups and downs. these times are the worst its ever been. even if new owners come in the transfer window is closed in 7 days time. bond is in an impossible situation and frankly i dont know what the answer is.
Posted by: alasdair, windsor/kosovo on 12:25pm Sun 24 Aug 08
current form will see us overtaken by luton that will unexcusable this needs to be sorted and sorted now as for players nightclubbing after a home defeat they should be disciplined by the club
current form will see us overtaken by luton that will unexcusable this needs to be sorted and sorted now as for players nightclubbing after a home defeat they should be disciplined by the club
Posted by: mike, poole on 1:08pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Alasdair, much as I feel similar frustrations, a player cannot be disciplined by the club for 'nightclubbing' AFTER a match...but I certainly don't condone it!
Alasdair, much as I feel similar frustrations, a player cannot be disciplined by the club for 'nightclubbing' AFTER a match...but I certainly don't condone it!
Posted by: Moose, Ferndown on 2:47pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Usual Echo rubbish reporting - no mention that about 10 seconds before Exeter scored Danny Hollands got a kick in the head, that should've been a free-kick to us.He was going mental at the ref when he gave the goal, did no-one notice.I was absolutely furious.And I think that match confirmed that Pitman cannot play as a lone striker,he only got into the game a bit when he went out wide.His effort needs to improve wherever he plays, as Darren Andreton was letting him know in no uncertain terms more than once.
Usual Echo rubbish reporting - no mention that about 10 seconds before Exeter scored Danny Hollands got a kick in the head, that should've been a free-kick to us.He was going mental at the ref when he gave the goal, did no-one notice.I was absolutely furious.And I think that match confirmed that Pitman cannot play as a lone striker,he only got into the game a bit when he went out wide.His effort needs to improve wherever he plays, as Darren Andreton was letting him know in no uncertain terms more than once.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 3:18pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]alasdair[/bold] wrote:
current form will see us overtaken by luton that will unexcusable this needs to be sorted and sorted now as for players nightclubbing after a home defeat they should be disciplined by the club[/quote] Let's not get carried away, Luton are not fairing any better than we are,only Rotherham of the bottom 3 have had the good start and they have played weaker teams, I agree it was not good enough yesterday but it's still only 3 games in, we haven't played a side from last seasons league 2 teams, things have to improve for sure but let's not let anger could judgment, there are still several teams yet to get a point. As for Anderton whats the big fuss, would your customers complain about you going out if you had a bad day at work, there is nothing wrong with letting your hair down after a bad result, Anderton has worked his socks off this season so why shouldn't he.
alasdair wrote:
current form will see us overtaken by luton that will unexcusable this needs to be sorted and sorted now as for players nightclubbing after a home defeat they should be disciplined by the club
Let's not get carried away, Luton are not fairing any better than we are,only Rotherham of the bottom 3 have had the good start and they have played weaker teams, I agree it was not good enough yesterday but it's still only 3 games in, we haven't played a side from last seasons league 2 teams, things have to improve for sure but let's not let anger could judgment, there are still several teams yet to get a point. As for Anderton whats the big fuss, would your customers complain about you going out if you had a bad day at work, there is nothing wrong with letting your hair down after a bad result, Anderton has worked his socks off this season so why shouldn't he.
Posted by: AK450, Corfe Mullen, Wimborne on 3:19pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Any chance I could have my £15 back? The performance like the club was a joke
Any chance I could have my £15 back? The performance like the club was a joke
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 3:21pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Big Rich[/bold] wrote:
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home. Pitman is just not good enough in million years. Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide. Very confusing[/quote] I know its bloody negative stuff at home with points to make up and in reality we played zero up front
Big Rich wrote:
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home. Pitman is just not good enough in million years. Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide. Very confusing
I know its bloody negative stuff at home with points to make up and in reality we played zero up front
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 3:21pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]frankfidler[/bold] wrote:
ive been suporting the cherries for nearly 60 years and lived thro all our ups and downs. these times are the worst its ever been. even if new owners come in the transfer window is closed in 7 days time. bond is in an impossible situation and frankly i dont know what the answer is.[/quote] For sure it's the hardest times we have seen at the club, we were nearly out of business just a few weeks ago, it is going to take time to come back from that, you would think it was easy the way some people are having a go, there is no quick fix and the league didn't help with the -17 points, things were always going to be hard this season those claiming we should be aiming for promotion are having a reality check, all we can hope for is that the new owners do have a plan and that Bond is not as inept as things are starting to look, the next week is going to make or break our season, it's that close a call right now.
frankfidler wrote:
ive been suporting the cherries for nearly 60 years and lived thro all our ups and downs. these times are the worst its ever been. even if new owners come in the transfer window is closed in 7 days time. bond is in an impossible situation and frankly i dont know what the answer is.
For sure it's the hardest times we have seen at the club, we were nearly out of business just a few weeks ago, it is going to take time to come back from that, you would think it was easy the way some people are having a go, there is no quick fix and the league didn't help with the -17 points, things were always going to be hard this season those claiming we should be aiming for promotion are having a reality check, all we can hope for is that the new owners do have a plan and that Bond is not as inept as things are starting to look, the next week is going to make or break our season, it's that close a call right now.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 3:25pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Big Rich[/bold] wrote:
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home. Pitman is just not good enough in million years. Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide. Very confusing[/quote] I know its bloody negative stuff at home with points to make up and in reality we played zero up front[/quote] In reality we don't have the players up front, we haven't had a decent striker in years, we need players to turn this around. I still can't work out why we bought the young striker form Liverpool in and then not play him, Pitmann is proving time and again he just doesn't have what it takes, sorry to say it but he's not going to get us out of this.
kevvo wrote:
Big Rich wrote:
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home. Pitman is just not good enough in million years. Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide. Very confusing
I know its bloody negative stuff at home with points to make up and in reality we played zero up front
In reality we don't have the players up front, we haven't had a decent striker in years, we need players to turn this around. I still can't work out why we bought the young striker form Liverpool in and then not play him, Pitmann is proving time and again he just doesn't have what it takes, sorry to say it but he's not going to get us out of this.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 3:28pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AK450[/bold] wrote:
Any chance I could have my £15 back? The performance like the club was a joke[/quote] And why is the club a joke, surely you are not saying that, it's one thing having a poor game but calling the club a joke is a bit harsh, how quickly people forget where we have come from in the past few weeks.
AK450 wrote:
Any chance I could have my £15 back? The performance like the club was a joke
And why is the club a joke, surely you are not saying that, it's one thing having a poor game but calling the club a joke is a bit harsh, how quickly people forget where we have come from in the past few weeks.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 4:32pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca, why would you "doubt" the potential new buyers have any money. You are completely speaking of an area you know absolutely nothing about.
The source I heard the news from yesterday was completely A1 reliable and a loyal supporter of this club for many more years than most.
Apparently a number of key supporters have already met with these people and are 1000% sure that the money is there and the football knowledge is there.
It's our best option, proper investment, new coaching staff (hopefully) and some fresh blood on the field.
All another week will prove is that we will loose at Port Vale and become 10pts adrift of safety after 4 games.
Macca, why would you "doubt" the potential new buyers have any money. You are completely speaking of an area you know absolutely nothing about.
The source I heard the news from yesterday was completely A1 reliable and a loyal supporter of this club for many more years than most.
Apparently a number of key supporters have already met with these people and are 1000% sure that the money is there and the football knowledge is there.
It's our best option, proper investment, new coaching staff (hopefully) and some fresh blood on the field.
All another week will prove is that we will loose at Port Vale and become 10pts adrift of safety after 4 games.
Posted by: RobT on 4:41pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Well, any club can be "up for sale". It really does depend whether these potential buyers will put their money where their mouth is. It didn't happen during administration. Lots of mouth but no money.
Well, any club can be "up for sale". It really does depend whether these potential buyers will put their money where their mouth is. It didn't happen during administration. Lots of mouth but no money.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 4:42pm Sun 24 Aug 08
If they are so nailed on and it's all a done deal then name them AFCB the only ... I am not so easily persuaded buy arguments that include I have a reliable source etc Also what has being a supporter for many years have to do with the validity of the claim? come on if it's true then tell is who it is, we have had 9 months of this someone knows someone who once knew someone who said they might know someone who has some money which they may or may not use to buy or not buy the club, truth is we have heard it all before so if there is any truth in it above and beyond the stuff we have already heard about these people then let's see it, I know who they are just as you do but I would love to see it actually happen, after all didn't you say the current owners were all talk, let's see if these new "owners" will actually do as you say.
If they are so nailed on and it's all a done deal then name them AFCB the only ... I am not so easily persuaded buy arguments that include I have a reliable source etc Also what has being a supporter for many years have to do with the validity of the claim? come on if it's true then tell is who it is, we have had 9 months of this someone knows someone who once knew someone who said they might know someone who has some money which they may or may not use to buy or not buy the club, truth is we have heard it all before so if there is any truth in it above and beyond the stuff we have already heard about these people then let's see it, I know who they are just as you do but I would love to see it actually happen, after all didn't you say the current owners were all talk, let's see if these new "owners" will actually do as you say.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 4:45pm Sun 24 Aug 08
One other point, it's not all about who has more money than someone else it's also about how the club will be run, what we don't need is another owner who will come in invest this money you claim they will and then run the club into more debt trying to get their money back, I would much rather see the club stay afloat debt free and rebuild over a longer period of time a quick fix is not the solution and this new claim of another buyer sounds like it to me, stability is what we need now more than ever.
One other point, it's not all about who has more money than someone else it's also about how the club will be run, what we don't need is another owner who will come in invest this money you claim they will and then run the club into more debt trying to get their money back, I would much rather see the club stay afloat debt free and rebuild over a longer period of time a quick fix is not the solution and this new claim of another buyer sounds like it to me, stability is what we need now more than ever.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 4:59pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca, I note your points. You don't really expect me to say who gave me the info, that is betraying confidence. I have no idea who these potential buyers are, but if you do please let me know.
As to quick fixes, YES PLEASE, we are 23rd in League 2, 7pts adrift after 3 league games. 2 difficult away games coming up and (I hope not) but realistically 10+ points adrift before our next home games.
If you asked 4,000+ Bournemouth fans leaving the ground yesterday, they would all love a "quick fix".
Going down to non league football and saying it's a rebuild job isn't acceptable. It took Aldershot 18 years to "rebuild".
Macca, I note your points. You don't really expect me to say who gave me the info, that is betraying confidence. I have no idea who these potential buyers are, but if you do please let me know.
As to quick fixes, YES PLEASE, we are 23rd in League 2, 7pts adrift after 3 league games. 2 difficult away games coming up and (I hope not) but realistically 10+ points adrift before our next home games.
If you asked 4,000+ Bournemouth fans leaving the ground yesterday, they would all love a "quick fix".
Going down to non league football and saying it's a rebuild job isn't acceptable. It took Aldershot 18 years to "rebuild".
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:06pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca, I note your points. You don't really expect me to say who gave me the info, that is betraying confidence. I have no idea who these potential buyers are, but if you do please let me know.
As to quick fixes, YES PLEASE, we are 23rd in League 2, 7pts adrift after 3 league games. 2 difficult away games coming up and (I hope not) but realistically 10+ points adrift before our next home games.
If you asked 4,000+ Bournemouth fans leaving the ground yesterday, they would all love a "quick fix".
Going down to non league football and saying it's a rebuild job isn't acceptable. It took Aldershot 18 years to "rebuild". [/quote] You are not being realistic, what do you expect a new owner to do? we have a week before the transfer window closes so the club wont be sold before then, that then means no possible signings before January unless you want loan signings but you have made it quite clear they are out, then you want a new manager, no time for them to bring in new players so we will still have the same players, its a known fact it takes 10 games for a new manager to work out the team, so how is the quick fix a solution? What we need is for the team to pull a win out of the bag and get the confidence up and for the owners to add to the team in the little time we have left, just ditching Baker for a new owner will not change the results or the team, and I can't recall anyone suggesting we should go down to the conference but a new manager and owner right now could well be the catalist for the very thing we don't want. Baker must sack or back Bond and we have to get players to turn this around there is no quick fix solution.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, I note your points. You don't really expect me to say who gave me the info, that is betraying confidence. I have no idea who these potential buyers are, but if you do please let me know.
As to quick fixes, YES PLEASE, we are 23rd in League 2, 7pts adrift after 3 league games. 2 difficult away games coming up and (I hope not) but realistically 10+ points adrift before our next home games.
If you asked 4,000+ Bournemouth fans leaving the ground yesterday, they would all love a "quick fix".
Going down to non league football and saying it's a rebuild job isn't acceptable. It took Aldershot 18 years to "rebuild".
You are not being realistic, what do you expect a new owner to do? we have a week before the transfer window closes so the club wont be sold before then, that then means no possible signings before January unless you want loan signings but you have made it quite clear they are out, then you want a new manager, no time for them to bring in new players so we will still have the same players, its a known fact it takes 10 games for a new manager to work out the team, so how is the quick fix a solution? What we need is for the team to pull a win out of the bag and get the confidence up and for the owners to add to the team in the little time we have left, just ditching Baker for a new owner will not change the results or the team, and I can't recall anyone suggesting we should go down to the conference but a new manager and owner right now could well be the catalist for the very thing we don't want. Baker must sack or back Bond and we have to get players to turn this around there is no quick fix solution.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:20pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca, again see your points of view, but I disagree about new managers taking 10 games.
In most cases a new manager coming in works immediately and turns around a struggling team that can't previously buy a win for love nor money.
We need someone who is going to ignite this club and get the players motivated, again ask 4,000+ Bournemouth fans yesterday and you wouldn't find many that thinks KB could ignite a bombfire with a can of petrol and a box of matches.
I do actually agree with one of your arguments about the transfer window and not being able to buy new players now until January.
So our beloved Sport 6 / new owners should have ensured that we had a strong enough team / squad before the window closes, rather than adpot a "rob Peter to pay Paul" short sighted loan policy.
By the way you haven't told us who you think the potential new buyers are?
Macca, again see your points of view, but I disagree about new managers taking 10 games.
In most cases a new manager coming in works immediately and turns around a struggling team that can't previously buy a win for love nor money.
We need someone who is going to ignite this club and get the players motivated, again ask 4,000+ Bournemouth fans yesterday and you wouldn't find many that thinks KB could ignite a bombfire with a can of petrol and a box of matches.
I do actually agree with one of your arguments about the transfer window and not being able to buy new players now until January.
So our beloved Sport 6 / new owners should have ensured that we had a strong enough team / squad before the window closes, rather than adpot a "rob Peter to pay Paul" short sighted loan policy.
By the way you haven't told us who you think the potential new buyers are?
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:27pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca, again see your points of view, but I disagree about new managers taking 10 games.
In most cases a new manager coming in works immediately and turns around a struggling team that can't previously buy a win for love nor money.
We need someone who is going to ignite this club and get the players motivated, again ask 4,000+ Bournemouth fans yesterday and you wouldn't find many that thinks KB could ignite a bombfire with a can of petrol and a box of matches.
I do actually agree with one of your arguments about the transfer window and not being able to buy new players now until January.
So our beloved Sport 6 / new owners should have ensured that we had a strong enough team / squad before the window closes, rather than adpot a "rob Peter to pay Paul" short sighted loan policy.
By the way you haven't told us who you think the potential new buyers are?[/quote] Try Keegan, try Jewell there are many more examples if it not having an immediate effect, even Mel Machin needed a few games, let's not kid ourselves here it is not that easy to turn things around. As for the owners bringing in players over the summer, where have you been? there has been nothing in place to attempt any signings until 2 weeks ago, under normal circumstances then by all means they would be held responsible but again you are expecting too much in such a short time. Why should I say who the new potential owners are I am not the one claiming there is going to be one, you do try and twist things and deflect from things are you our local Mp by any chance? still waiting for those facts by the way.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, again see your points of view, but I disagree about new managers taking 10 games.
In most cases a new manager coming in works immediately and turns around a struggling team that can't previously buy a win for love nor money.
We need someone who is going to ignite this club and get the players motivated, again ask 4,000+ Bournemouth fans yesterday and you wouldn't find many that thinks KB could ignite a bombfire with a can of petrol and a box of matches.
I do actually agree with one of your arguments about the transfer window and not being able to buy new players now until January.
So our beloved Sport 6 / new owners should have ensured that we had a strong enough team / squad before the window closes, rather than adpot a "rob Peter to pay Paul" short sighted loan policy.
By the way you haven't told us who you think the potential new buyers are?
Try Keegan, try Jewell there are many more examples if it not having an immediate effect, even Mel Machin needed a few games, let's not kid ourselves here it is not that easy to turn things around. As for the owners bringing in players over the summer, where have you been? there has been nothing in place to attempt any signings until 2 weeks ago, under normal circumstances then by all means they would be held responsible but again you are expecting too much in such a short time. Why should I say who the new potential owners are I am not the one claiming there is going to be one, you do try and twist things and deflect from things are you our local Mp by any chance? still waiting for those facts by the way.
Posted by: RobT on 5:28pm Sun 24 Aug 08
You're the one "in the loop" London. Tell us, go on! It's worth £1. ;-)
You're the one "in the loop" London. Tell us, go on! It's worth £1. ;-)
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:34pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca said he knew offer him the dosh mate.
Macca said he knew offer him the dosh mate.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:37pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca said he knew offer him the dosh mate.[/quote] I said I know of the rumour you claim to know who they are from your reliable A1 source, once again deflecting your lack of facts onto someone else, dear oh dear.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca said he knew offer him the dosh mate.
I said I know of the rumour you claim to know who they are from your reliable A1 source, once again deflecting your lack of facts onto someone else, dear oh dear.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:40pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Sorry Macca you have completely lost me, go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense.
Sorry Macca you have completely lost me, go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:46pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Sorry Macca you have completely lost me, go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense.[/quote] Not another personal insult what a surprise that is....yawn.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Sorry Macca you have completely lost me, go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense.
Not another personal insult what a surprise that is....yawn.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca by the way managers to make an instant impact after starting at a new club:
Arsen Wenger
Harry Redknapp
George Graham
Jose Mourinho
Kenny Dalglish
There are of course many more but you may have heard of these ones?
Macca by the way managers to make an instant impact after starting at a new club:
Arsen Wenger
Harry Redknapp
George Graham
Jose Mourinho
Kenny Dalglish
There are of course many more but you may have heard of these ones?
Posted by: RobT on 5:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca - London previously wrote:
"I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
Macca - London previously wrote:
"I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:53pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca by the way managers to make an instant impact after starting at a new club:
Arsen Wenger
Harry Redknapp
George Graham
Jose Mourinho
Kenny Dalglish
There are of course many more but you may have heard of these ones? [/quote] Is that your opinion for bringing in a new manager, I notice no Bournemouth managers in that list unless you mean Harry who got us a 9-0 defeat at Lincoln (the club record defeat) in his first game so good choices.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca by the way managers to make an instant impact after starting at a new club:
Arsen Wenger
Harry Redknapp
George Graham
Jose Mourinho
Kenny Dalglish
There are of course many more but you may have heard of these ones?
Is that your opinion for bringing in a new manager, I notice no Bournemouth managers in that list unless you mean Harry who got us a 9-0 defeat at Lincoln (the club record defeat) in his first game so good choices.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:54pm Sun 24 Aug 08
macca look I'm not getting personal it's just that in some of your posts your not making sense.
As I have put on some of the other threads, let's just agree to disagree I am sure other people are getting bored of this.
macca look I'm not getting personal it's just that in some of your posts your not making sense.
As I have put on some of the other threads, let's just agree to disagree I am sure other people are getting bored of this.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:58pm Sun 24 Aug 08
No I was actually talking about his starts at Portsmouth and West Ham.
The players packed the "wrong studs" in the 9-0 defeat at Lincoln so it doesn't count!
No I was actually talking about his starts at Portsmouth and West Ham.
The players packed the "wrong studs" in the 9-0 defeat at Lincoln so it doesn't count!
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:58pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]RobT[/bold] wrote:
Macca - London previously wrote:
"I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."[/quote] It's all the same old rumours we have heard for ages and with the same people, we all know who they are, but we are not the ones claiming its' all going to happen if the club had a £1 for every time we heard this then it would never have gone bust in the first place lol. I know I would love a new owner with money to burn who could plough millions into the club, buy back the stadium bring in the next England or Brazil manager, I think we would all love that, in reality it's more likely to be an insurance salesman who got a Christmas bonus and would like something better than his Xbox to play football on, dreams are wonderful things we should all have them but this is the real world, the cherries are worth nothing no one is going to want to blow money they will never see again on a little sea side club that has never won a trophy in it's life, oh how I wish they would though.
RobT wrote:
Macca - London previously wrote:
"I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
It's all the same old rumours we have heard for ages and with the same people, we all know who they are, but we are not the ones claiming its' all going to happen if the club had a £1 for every time we heard this then it would never have gone bust in the first place lol. I know I would love a new owner with money to burn who could plough millions into the club, buy back the stadium bring in the next England or Brazil manager, I think we would all love that, in reality it's more likely to be an insurance salesman who got a Christmas bonus and would like something better than his Xbox to play football on, dreams are wonderful things we should all have them but this is the real world, the cherries are worth nothing no one is going to want to blow money they will never see again on a little sea side club that has never won a trophy in it's life, oh how I wish they would though.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:59pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
No I was actually talking about his starts at Portsmouth and West Ham.
The players packed the "wrong studs" in the 9-0 defeat at Lincoln so it doesn't count![/quote] You left out what he did at Southampton I see!!!!
AFCB The Only wrote:
No I was actually talking about his starts at Portsmouth and West Ham.
The players packed the "wrong studs" in the 9-0 defeat at Lincoln so it doesn't count!
You left out what he did at Southampton I see!!!!
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 6:01pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
macca look I'm
