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LIVERPOOL youngster Craig Lindfield has joined Cherries on loan until the end of December.
The 19-year-old, who has been capped by England at youth level, will add much needed depth to Kevin Bond's squad.
According to the Anfield club's website, the striker has joined until September 20, but Cherries have since confirmed the deal is longer-term.
The Wirral-born prospect, who has previously played on loan at Notts County and Chester, was signed in time to be in contention to face Exeter City tomorrow.
Transfer-listed Jo Kuffour is thought to be close to sealing a move away from Dean Court, with Bristol Rovers, Colchester United and Southend all linked with the Cherries striker.
4:00pm Friday 22nd August 2008
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CommentPosted by: AFCB The Only, London on 4:35pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Here we go again. Another loan player. This will get us by (or not) for another few weeks. Where is a signing on a long term deal of a proven goalscorer.
Oh sorry, you actually need some money for that.
What happens when all the loan players have to go back at the sametime? Or have we all left the building by then, with the last one to leave "please switch off the lights.
Here we go again. Another loan player. This will get us by (or not) for another few weeks. Where is a signing on a long term deal of a proven goalscorer.
Oh sorry, you actually need some money for that.
What happens when all the loan players have to go back at the sametime? Or have we all left the building by then, with the last one to leave "please switch off the lights.
Posted by: ClintW, Bournemouth on 4:39pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Non League talent is the way forward, we need Ted Sutton and the backroom staff to earn there keep and do what there paid for, get out there and find some players who are hungry to succeed and have got a bit of fire in there belly. We need players who are going to take pride in wearing the shirt!
Non League talent is the way forward, we need Ted Sutton and the backroom staff to earn there keep and do what there paid for, get out there and find some players who are hungry to succeed and have got a bit of fire in there belly. We need players who are going to take pride in wearing the shirt!
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 4:44pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Yes ClintW totally agree, but it's no surprise that Sutton has used his Wirral / Scouse contacts to get in this guy. I agree they should be getting off their behinds and getting in someone that is local and hungry for AFCB and importantly has a long term future with us, instead of a 1.2, 3 month loan deal. What's the flippin point?
Yes ClintW totally agree, but it's no surprise that Sutton has used his Wirral / Scouse contacts to get in this guy. I agree they should be getting off their behinds and getting in someone that is local and hungry for AFCB and importantly has a long term future with us, instead of a 1.2, 3 month loan deal. What's the flippin point?
Posted by: ClintW, Bournemouth on 4:48pm Fri 22 Aug 08
I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.
I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.
Posted by: Richard Mayes on 4:56pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ClintW[/bold] wrote:
I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.[/quote] And many of them are better paid than ours. But nothing seems to have changed, good words not matched by their actions. Little wonder that almost half of last Seasons season ticket holders are yet to renew!It will be interesting to see whether the gate reaches 5000 tomorrow.[bold]bold[/bold]
ClintW wrote:
I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.
And many of them are better paid than ours. But nothing seems to have changed, good words not matched by their actions. Little wonder that almost half of last Seasons season ticket holders are yet to renew!It will be interesting to see whether the gate reaches 5000 tomorrow.
Posted by: brightonbeachend, wild wild west of wimborne on 4:57pm Fri 22 Aug 08
I do enjoy reading what u guys write. Moan moan moan moan moan. Please carry on with your moaning, it really gives me a good laugh, thank you.
I do enjoy reading what u guys write. Moan moan moan moan moan. Please carry on with your moaning, it really gives me a good laugh, thank you.
Posted by: ClintW, Bournemouth on 4:58pm Fri 22 Aug 08
One other thing that bugs me, we should be a breeding groung for young talent coming through our ranks. On our door step is one of largest Junior football clubs in Europe with Littledown Juniors Scouts should be down there every weekend assessing young players and ensuring we get to them first before any of of the so called bigger clubs get to them.
One other thing that bugs me, we should be a breeding groung for young talent coming through our ranks. On our door step is one of largest Junior football clubs in Europe with Littledown Juniors Scouts should be down there every weekend assessing young players and ensuring we get to them first before any of of the so called bigger clubs get to them.
Posted by: ClintW, Bournemouth on 5:01pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote][bold]brightonbeachend[/bold] wrote:
I do enjoy reading what u guys write. Moan moan moan moan moan. Please carry on with your moaning, it really gives me a good laugh, thank you. [/quote] Not really moaning, but surley you want to see players give there heart and soul to the club rather than some of our players you seem to think there actually bigger than the football club?
brightonbeachend wrote:
I do enjoy reading what u guys write. Moan moan moan moan moan. Please carry on with your moaning, it really gives me a good laugh, thank you.
Not really moaning, but surley you want to see players give there heart and soul to the club rather than some of our players you seem to think there actually bigger than the football club?
Posted by: ross, christchurch on 5:01pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ClintW[/bold] wrote:
I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.[/quote] lets have some names then.
ClintW wrote:
I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.
lets have some names then.
Posted by: ClintW, Bournemouth on 5:03pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ross[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ClintW[/bold] wrote: I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.[/quote] lets have some names then. [/quote] Richard Gillespie at Bashley For one I think would make a great addition to our squad, power, pace, good finisher.
ross wrote:
ClintW wrote: I keep beating the same drum but there are a few very good successful local non league teams and a few of there players could show our boys a thing or to.
lets have some names then.
Richard Gillespie at Bashley For one I think would make a great addition to our squad, power, pace, good finisher.
Posted by: richard.board, southampton on 5:04pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Connell deal now dead by the look of it-although London press say its in the bag!
Perhaps Jo has to go and we will start tripping over centre forwards!
Connell deal now dead by the look of it-although London press say its in the bag!
Perhaps Jo has to go and we will start tripping over centre forwards!
Posted by: RobT on 6:12pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Whatever signing we make there will still be the moaners. You moaned that we might get Connell, and now you're moaning that we've got someone else.
Whatever signing we make there will still be the moaners. You moaned that we might get Connell, and now you're moaning that we've got someone else.
Posted by: flyingleaper, el segundo ca.USA on 6:19pm Fri 22 Aug 08
AFC BMTH-WILLBE LOOKING AT LOCAL PLAYERS WHILE THE LOANIES ARE AROUND,cant just bring in an amateur and put him in the 1st team, now can you?,funny just posted COME ON YOU REDS-RED ARMY!AAAAAA---------
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AFC BMTH-WILLBE LOOKING AT LOCAL PLAYERS WHILE THE LOANIES ARE AROUND,cant just bring in an amateur and put him in the 1st team, now can you?,funny just posted COME ON YOU REDS-RED ARMY!AAAAAA---------
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Posted by: tednphil, bournemouth on 7:11pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Gillingham brought in a few non-league players half-way through last season and look what happened to them.
Wasn't Defoe a loan striker?
Gillingham brought in a few non-league players half-way through last season and look what happened to them.
Wasn't Defoe a loan striker?
Posted by: Geoff, Kinson on 8:01pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Is it true that most of those who have posted here are thinking of moaning for Great Britain in the 2012 Olympics ?
You would win a gold medal for cert !
Is it true that most of those who have posted here are thinking of moaning for Great Britain in the 2012 Olympics ?
You would win a gold medal for cert !
Posted by: ClintW, Bournemouth on 8:23pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Good point with regards to the Gills last season, however i'm not moaning about who we've bought in, if this scouse chap can help the cause and get some goals then great, what i'm saying is there is a certain amount of untapped talent out there and we should be the ones tapping into it. Look at Marvin he came from Non League, look at Wade Elliot, John Bailey, yes you also get the dross ones that come along, but I would like to see us take a gamble on some more players like these in the hope they become a success.
Good point with regards to the Gills last season, however i'm not moaning about who we've bought in, if this scouse chap can help the cause and get some goals then great, what i'm saying is there is a certain amount of untapped talent out there and we should be the ones tapping into it. Look at Marvin he came from Non League, look at Wade Elliot, John Bailey, yes you also get the dross ones that come along, but I would like to see us take a gamble on some more players like these in the hope they become a success.
Posted by: Steve Butler, Ferndown on 9:24pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Can I ask why the new owners with their injection of cash to pay creditors and buy our Club - Cannot buy a new sriker - Is this loan in the short term plan or will we sign permanent committed players with their investment potential ?
Can I ask why the new owners with their injection of cash to pay creditors and buy our Club - Cannot buy a new sriker - Is this loan in the short term plan or will we sign permanent committed players with their investment potential ?
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 9:33pm Fri 22 Aug 08
Don't want to be accussed of moaning, but the new owners haven't got any money to actually buy players, that's why we have set up loads of "loan deals" Wake up boys and smell the cofee
Don't want to be accussed of moaning, but the new owners haven't got any money to actually buy players, that's why we have set up loads of "loan deals" Wake up boys and smell the cofee
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 9:59pm Fri 22 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Don't want to be accussed of moaning, but the new owners haven't got any money to actually buy players, that's why we have set up loads of "loan deals" Wake up boys and smell the cofee [/quote] Back that up with some facts then!!!!
AFCB The Only wrote:
Don't want to be accussed of moaning, but the new owners haven't got any money to actually buy players, that's why we have set up loads of "loan deals" Wake up boys and smell the cofee
Back that up with some facts then!!!!
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 10:01pm Fri 22 Aug 08
It would appear that there are those who will never be happy no matter what happens, the rest of us welcome this player and hope he can do a job, and we know money is tight hence just coming out out of admin but at least we know it wont all happen immediately, give them a chance for the love of god!!!
It would appear that there are those who will never be happy no matter what happens, the rest of us welcome this player and hope he can do a job, and we know money is tight hence just coming out out of admin but at least we know it wont all happen immediately, give them a chance for the love of god!!!
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 3:50am Sat 23 Aug 08
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it?
league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it?
league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 6:48am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it?
league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"[/quote] In one breathe you say they have no money and can't invest and in the next you say you want them to invest, which is it? the transfer window is not closed yet, we have only been able to sign players for 2 weeks, we are 2nd bottom on -15 points we have just come out of admin, you expect too much too soon. There have been loan players who have done a good job for us recently and if thats all we can sign then so be it, there is more to signing players than having money, we need the right player for the right price who wants to play for us in our present state, if we bring in loan players who can get us up the league by January then we will have a better chance of signing long term players in the January transfer window. You are asking for things to happen which you yourself say can't because of our position, you can't have it both ways.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it?
league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"
In one breathe you say they have no money and can't invest and in the next you say you want them to invest, which is it? the transfer window is not closed yet, we have only been able to sign players for 2 weeks, we are 2nd bottom on -15 points we have just come out of admin, you expect too much too soon. There have been loan players who have done a good job for us recently and if thats all we can sign then so be it, there is more to signing players than having money, we need the right player for the right price who wants to play for us in our present state, if we bring in loan players who can get us up the league by January then we will have a better chance of signing long term players in the January transfer window. You are asking for things to happen which you yourself say can't because of our position, you can't have it both ways.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 9:10am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]macca02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote: Don't want to be accussed of moaning, but the new owners haven't got any money to actually buy players, that's why we have set up loads of "loan deals" Wake up boys and smell the cofee [/quote] Back that up with some facts then!!!![/quote] Even if its true we are still better off the Old Owner didnt have enough Money to pay the Players
macca02 wrote:
AFCB The Only wrote: Don't want to be accussed of moaning, but the new owners haven't got any money to actually buy players, that's why we have set up loads of "loan deals" Wake up boys and smell the cofee
Back that up with some facts then!!!!
Even if its true we are still better off the Old Owner didnt have enough Money to pay the Players
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 9:15am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it? league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"[/quote] Yes but they still have to pay these players out of the fund. Frankly I dont care what Bond signs loan or no loan as long as it gets us up the table. Why do people assume that the new people can suddenly put right the mess that was left for them overnight. In my opinion safety is our aim this season and try for something next season when Bond at least has an equal chance of getting some longer term players in as the decent ones were snapped up before we could join in
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it? league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"
Yes but they still have to pay these players out of the fund. Frankly I dont care what Bond signs loan or no loan as long as it gets us up the table. Why do people assume that the new people can suddenly put right the mess that was left for them overnight. In my opinion safety is our aim this season and try for something next season when Bond at least has an equal chance of getting some longer term players in as the decent ones were snapped up before we could join in
Posted by: Chubbs, Bmth on 10:08am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it?
league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"[/quote] Have you ever stopped to think that its not just as easy as ou make out it is to find the right player to buy! As a) they would need to be good enough to want to sign them, b) they would have to want to sign for a struggling club in league 2 with a points deduction! You make it sound as if we are just choosing these random loan players but ignoring buying amazing players that are desperate to play for us. I like to see what yourr thoughts are if we were to play a team full of our youth and started getting hammered! As you say "wake up and smell the coffee"
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, I'll tell you what would make AFCB fans happy are owners investing into the clubs future rather than getting loan players who won't be around in 3 months rime. If you have money you "buy" players now and get loan players after the transfer window closes to supplement your squad. We have been told there is money to spend in this and other areas, so where is it?
league status for our club is too important for us to "hope" loan players can come in a "do a job" By the way that's a "fact"
Have you ever stopped to think that its not just as easy as ou make out it is to find the right player to buy! As a) they would need to be good enough to want to sign them, b) they would have to want to sign for a struggling club in league 2 with a points deduction! You make it sound as if we are just choosing these random loan players but ignoring buying amazing players that are desperate to play for us. I like to see what yourr thoughts are if we were to play a team full of our youth and started getting hammered! As you say "wake up and smell the coffee"
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 10:18am Sat 23 Aug 08
I would obviuosly like our new owners to invest in our future, but they haven't yet. Going for a loan policy is like renting vs. buying, in the end the money you put into loan players is short term and short lived. You find yourself in a catch 22 situation, never being able to afford to "invest in our future". "Hoping" that a bunch of loan players can gel, play for the shirt and have the interest and passion to make up a -15pt deficit league. And then when January comes we are suddenly going to be in a position to have the money to buy the players you couldn't afford to buy in August.
It's naive thinking boys. And as a fan yes I do want it both ways, owners who have money to buy players with a long term future, is that too much to ask?
I would obviuosly like our new owners to invest in our future, but they haven't yet. Going for a loan policy is like renting vs. buying, in the end the money you put into loan players is short term and short lived. You find yourself in a catch 22 situation, never being able to afford to "invest in our future". "Hoping" that a bunch of loan players can gel, play for the shirt and have the interest and passion to make up a -15pt deficit league. And then when January comes we are suddenly going to be in a position to have the money to buy the players you couldn't afford to buy in August.
It's naive thinking boys. And as a fan yes I do want it both ways, owners who have money to buy players with a long term future, is that too much to ask?
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 10:33am Sat 23 Aug 08
Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard.
The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2.
If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then?
Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football.
Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard.
The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2.
If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then?
Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football.
Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
Posted by: john coombes, Tiverton on 10:47am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard. The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2. If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then? Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football. Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake. [/quote] could not agree more, no expects the club to start paying big silly money for players, but the players have been out ther this summer on free transfers who would gladly accepted the chance to come and earn a living for themselves as opposed to loan players who unless you have intentions of making it a permanent deal will only be looking to enhance their own career prospects, the goals scored by Max Gradel and Sam Vokes will not easily be replaced, and we do need a proven goalscorer, it is a problem which I believe the club are aware of but I see little sign of them trying to solve as yet
AFCB The Only wrote:
Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard. The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2. If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then? Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football. Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
could not agree more, no expects the club to start paying big silly money for players, but the players have been out ther this summer on free transfers who would gladly accepted the chance to come and earn a living for themselves as opposed to loan players who unless you have intentions of making it a permanent deal will only be looking to enhance their own career prospects, the goals scored by Max Gradel and Sam Vokes will not easily be replaced, and we do need a proven goalscorer, it is a problem which I believe the club are aware of but I see little sign of them trying to solve as yet
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 11:22am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote: Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard. The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2. If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then? Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football. Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake. [/quote] could not agree more, no expects the club to start paying big silly money for players, but the players have been out ther this summer on free transfers who would gladly accepted the chance to come and earn a living for themselves as opposed to loan players who unless you have intentions of making it a permanent deal will only be looking to enhance their own career prospects, the goals scored by Max Gradel and Sam Vokes will not easily be replaced, and we do need a proven goalscorer, it is a problem which I believe the club are aware of but I see little sign of them trying to solve as yet[/quote] yes you of course have a point but what player in his right mind would sign for a club in the summer that may have been out of business before the season started. that said its done now and yes bond should look lower and non league for players but there is nothing wrong to bring in a striker from one of the best teams in the country whos chances are limited because of Keane Torres Kuyt and co. Its a bit early to think relegation is invitable yet. There is little or nothing we as Supporters can do about it except not turn up which will cripple the Club even more so it looks like we have to make the best of it. at least the Players are being paid now and I dont think we would have faired any better under the un shackled helm of Good Old Jeff.
john coombes wrote:
AFCB The Only wrote: Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard. The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2. If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then? Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football. Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
could not agree more, no expects the club to start paying big silly money for players, but the players have been out ther this summer on free transfers who would gladly accepted the chance to come and earn a living for themselves as opposed to loan players who unless you have intentions of making it a permanent deal will only be looking to enhance their own career prospects, the goals scored by Max Gradel and Sam Vokes will not easily be replaced, and we do need a proven goalscorer, it is a problem which I believe the club are aware of but I see little sign of them trying to solve as yet
yes you of course have a point but what player in his right mind would sign for a club in the summer that may have been out of business before the season started. that said its done now and yes bond should look lower and non league for players but there is nothing wrong to bring in a striker from one of the best teams in the country whos chances are limited because of Keane Torres Kuyt and co. Its a bit early to think relegation is invitable yet. There is little or nothing we as Supporters can do about it except not turn up which will cripple the Club even more so it looks like we have to make the best of it. at least the Players are being paid now and I dont think we would have faired any better under the un shackled helm of Good Old Jeff.
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 11:25am Sat 23 Aug 08
Perhaps we could release more funds by getting rid of Ted and Newman do we really need them .
Perhaps we could release more funds by getting rid of Ted and Newman do we really need them .
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 11:30am Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]kevvo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]john coombes[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote: Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard. The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2. If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then? Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football. Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake. [/quote] could not agree more, no expects the club to start paying big silly money for players, but the players have been out ther this summer on free transfers who would gladly accepted the chance to come and earn a living for themselves as opposed to loan players who unless you have intentions of making it a permanent deal will only be looking to enhance their own career prospects, the goals scored by Max Gradel and Sam Vokes will not easily be replaced, and we do need a proven goalscorer, it is a problem which I believe the club are aware of but I see little sign of them trying to solve as yet[/quote] yes you of course have a point but what player in his right mind would sign for a club in the summer that may have been out of business before the season started. that said its done now and yes bond should look lower and non league for players but there is nothing wrong to bring in a striker from one of the best teams in the country whos chances are limited because of Keane Torres Kuyt and co. Its a bit early to think relegation is invitable yet. There is little or nothing we as Supporters can do about it except not turn up which will cripple the Club even more so it looks like we have to make the best of it. at least the Players are being paid now and I dont think we would have faired any better under the un shackled helm of Good Old Jeff.[/quote] Oh and John Gradel was one of those loan players who came here to further his own career . Thank goodness he did so sometimes a loan signing works. Pity we couldnt have him this season
kevvo wrote:
john coombes wrote: AFCB The Only wrote: Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard. The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2. If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then? Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football. Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
could not agree more, no expects the club to start paying big silly money for players, but the players have been out ther this summer on free transfers who would gladly accepted the chance to come and earn a living for themselves as opposed to loan players who unless you have intentions of making it a permanent deal will only be looking to enhance their own career prospects, the goals scored by Max Gradel and Sam Vokes will not easily be replaced, and we do need a proven goalscorer, it is a problem which I believe the club are aware of but I see little sign of them trying to solve as yet
yes you of course have a point but what player in his right mind would sign for a club in the summer that may have been out of business before the season started. that said its done now and yes bond should look lower and non league for players but there is nothing wrong to bring in a striker from one of the best teams in the country whos chances are limited because of Keane Torres Kuyt and co. Its a bit early to think relegation is invitable yet. There is little or nothing we as Supporters can do about it except not turn up which will cripple the Club even more so it looks like we have to make the best of it. at least the Players are being paid now and I dont think we would have faired any better under the un shackled helm of Good Old Jeff.
Oh and John Gradel was one of those loan players who came here to further his own career . Thank goodness he did so sometimes a loan signing works. Pity we couldnt have him this season
Posted by: kevvo, The dog house again on 11:32am Sat 23 Aug 08
should have been a , between John and Gradel it was in response to what John Coombes said about the Goals scored by Vokes and Gradel sorry eating cake and typing lol
should have been a , between John and Gradel it was in response to what John Coombes said about the Goals scored by Vokes and Gradel sorry eating cake and typing lol
Posted by: lamarinacf, Alicante/Bournemouth on 11:52am Sat 23 Aug 08
Lingfield is a class act.
As for buying players you cant just buy them you need to look at what will be good for us and who will fit in not just buy any tom dick or harry and hope for the best.
I think Bond will have secured a few non leaguers by the time the transfer windows ends.
Come on boys, give us a win today. Lingfield to score.
Lingfield is a class act.
As for buying players you cant just buy them you need to look at what will be good for us and who will fit in not just buy any tom dick or harry and hope for the best.
I think Bond will have secured a few non leaguers by the time the transfer windows ends.
Come on boys, give us a win today. Lingfield to score.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 12:16pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Good point Kevvo. How can we afford and justify having a "Director of Football" Oh I forgot he's an olde mate of Saverimutto.
As I've said when the head stinks it has a knock on affect. The problem is for us is that the knock on affect for our club will be non league football next year.
By the way if league crowds go down due to lack of results it could force these guys out sooner rather than later (when it's too late for AFCB).
Good point Kevvo. How can we afford and justify having a "Director of Football" Oh I forgot he's an olde mate of Saverimutto.
As I've said when the head stinks it has a knock on affect. The problem is for us is that the knock on affect for our club will be non league football next year.
By the way if league crowds go down due to lack of results it could force these guys out sooner rather than later (when it's too late for AFCB).
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 12:46pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
I would obviuosly like our new owners to invest in our future, but they haven't yet. Going for a loan policy is like renting vs. buying, in the end the money you put into loan players is short term and short lived. You find yourself in a catch 22 situation, never being able to afford to "invest in our future". "Hoping" that a bunch of loan players can gel, play for the shirt and have the interest and passion to make up a -15pt deficit league. And then when January comes we are suddenly going to be in a position to have the money to buy the players you couldn't afford to buy in August.
It's naive thinking boys. And as a fan yes I do want it both ways, owners who have money to buy players with a long term future, is that too much to ask?[/quote] You seem to be forgetting the players we already have, if it was only down to wanting to play for the club then surely we already have the players for that? these loan players are here to add to the squad and cover injuries they are not the core of the team, Bond said back in may a squad of 14 senior pro's and youngsters plus loan players what has changed? This season is never going to be about anything other than survival and if we need these loan players to help then so be it, as most of us are saying you don't just sign a player when you want in a normal season add our problems into the mix and it's even harder, let's give those we have the support and get behind them rather than keep looking elsewhere for answers, sooner or later you have to accept we have what we have and must make do with that I am sure Bond has.
AFCB The Only wrote:
I would obviuosly like our new owners to invest in our future, but they haven't yet. Going for a loan policy is like renting vs. buying, in the end the money you put into loan players is short term and short lived. You find yourself in a catch 22 situation, never being able to afford to "invest in our future". "Hoping" that a bunch of loan players can gel, play for the shirt and have the interest and passion to make up a -15pt deficit league. And then when January comes we are suddenly going to be in a position to have the money to buy the players you couldn't afford to buy in August.
It's naive thinking boys. And as a fan yes I do want it both ways, owners who have money to buy players with a long term future, is that too much to ask?
You seem to be forgetting the players we already have, if it was only down to wanting to play for the club then surely we already have the players for that? these loan players are here to add to the squad and cover injuries they are not the core of the team, Bond said back in may a squad of 14 senior pro's and youngsters plus loan players what has changed? This season is never going to be about anything other than survival and if we need these loan players to help then so be it, as most of us are saying you don't just sign a player when you want in a normal season add our problems into the mix and it's even harder, let's give those we have the support and get behind them rather than keep looking elsewhere for answers, sooner or later you have to accept we have what we have and must make do with that I am sure Bond has.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 12:50pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard.
The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2.
If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then?
Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football.
Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
[/quote] That;s a very low opinion you have of your team after 2 league games, how do you expect them to do anything with that kind of support, as for the signings we have a budget which is strict this season because of the cap and yes there are free agents out there but within our budget there are only so many players they can afford, why not encourage the team and others to support the team rather than kill them off, the bigger the gate the larger our budget for new players, quite simple really. I can't see why you want to be so negative about your own team I will never be able to work out that mentality.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Chubbs & Kevvo, there are plenty of players out there that we could have signed that can do us a job and attain survival this season. Again for the money to fund loan players coming in, you can with the funding in place get these players onboard.
The worry is here we are not even going to remotely get close to getting out of the bottom 2.
If we are struggling by Dec / Jan with attendances low, with all the loan players going back at the sametime, how are we going to take things forward then?
Can't afford to buy so you have a makeshift skeleton squad with Newman signing up to go on the bench again. With a new bunch of loan players coming in to help us survive the drop to non league football.
Totally unacceptable policy when this club's professional league status is at stake.
That;s a very low opinion you have of your team after 2 league games, how do you expect them to do anything with that kind of support, as for the signings we have a budget which is strict this season because of the cap and yes there are free agents out there but within our budget there are only so many players they can afford, why not encourage the team and others to support the team rather than kill them off, the bigger the gate the larger our budget for new players, quite simple really. I can't see why you want to be so negative about your own team I will never be able to work out that mentality.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 12:54pm Sat 23 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Good point Kevvo. How can we afford and justify having a "Director of Football" Oh I forgot he's an olde mate of Saverimutto.
As I've said when the head stinks it has a knock on affect. The problem is for us is that the knock on affect for our club will be non league football next year.
By the way if league crowds go down due to lack of results it could force these guys out sooner rather than later (when it's too late for AFCB). [/quote] Why are you so determined to write the team off? the Director of Football has nothing to do with the budget for players that is decided by turnover, so yes if you want your team out of business don't support them, what is it exactly you have against the new owners? you are very unhappy with them and I can't see a good reason for this so please enlighten us all.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Good point Kevvo. How can we afford and justify having a "Director of Football" Oh I forgot he's an olde mate of Saverimutto.
As I've said when the head stinks it has a knock on affect. The problem is for us is that the knock on affect for our club will be non league football next year.
By the way if league crowds go down due to lack of results it could force these guys out sooner rather than later (when it's too late for AFCB).
Why are you so determined to write the team off? the Director of Football has nothing to do with the budget for players that is decided by turnover, so yes if you want your team out of business don't support them, what is it exactly you have against the new owners? you are very unhappy with them and I can't see a good reason for this so please enlighten us all.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 1:11pm Sat 23 Aug 08
Come on Macca we all want the best for the club, we just have different opinions, or different ways of looking at the problems.
But I do have 2 points to make:
1. Of course having a Director of footall affects our finances. The club pays his salary. Lack of financies equals lack of ability to sign players.
2. Why are you so defensive over the new owners?, to the point of almost being a spokesperson. Don't get so defensive, I have my views, you have yours, and I certainly don't have to justfy my views to you.
It's called a debate which is a free exchange of views.
Time will tell which views are nearer the mark. I hope I'm wrong and we get automatic promotion.
So please don't try and squash peoples opinions because they don't happen to agree with the official "party line".
Come on Macca we all want the best for the club, we just have different opinions, or different ways of looking at the problems.
But I do have 2 points to make:
1. Of course having a Director of footall affects our finances. The club pays his salary. Lack of financies equals lack of ability to sign players.
2. Why are you so defensive over the new owners?, to the point of almost being a spokesperson. Don't get so defensive, I have my views, you have yours, and I certainly don't have to justfy my views to you.
It's called a debate which is a free exchange of views.
Time will tell which views are nearer the mark. I hope I'm wrong and we get automatic promotion.
So please don't try and squash peoples opinions because they don't happen to agree with the official "party line".
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 3:34pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Come on Macca we all want the best for the club, we just have different opinions, or different ways of looking at the problems.
But I do have 2 points to make:
1. Of course having a Director of footall affects our finances. The club pays his salary. Lack of financies equals lack of ability to sign players.
2. Why are you so defensive over the new owners?, to the point of almost being a spokesperson. Don't get so defensive, I have my views, you have yours, and I certainly don't have to justfy my views to you.
It's called a debate which is a free exchange of views.
Time will tell which views are nearer the mark. I hope I'm wrong and we get automatic promotion.
So please don't try and squash peoples opinions because they don't happen to agree with the official "party line".[/quote] A view is one thing but you make wild claims about the club and finances, if you don't think the board are no good then I have no problem with that but you are saying specific points which are not view points but claims, that's what I have a problem with not your view point. I have asked you to back the claims up not to change your views, I am not defending the new owners I am defending the claims that you have made without facts, you then try to deflect this by accusing me of being the owner of a spokesperson, you did it again on the other thread asking what my official view point was on behalf of sport6, how is that having a debate? I am happy to differ in my opinion as it would be a dull world if we all thought the same I just don't like "fans" making wild claims about the club I support without anything to prove it, it's not about justifying yourself to me it's about backing your claims up, if you can't then leave it at opinions there is always room for them without the silly stuff.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Come on Macca we all want the best for the club, we just have different opinions, or different ways of looking at the problems.
But I do have 2 points to make:
1. Of course having a Director of footall affects our finances. The club pays his salary. Lack of financies equals lack of ability to sign players.
2. Why are you so defensive over the new owners?, to the point of almost being a spokesperson. Don't get so defensive, I have my views, you have yours, and I certainly don't have to justfy my views to you.
It's called a debate which is a free exchange of views.
Time will tell which views are nearer the mark. I hope I'm wrong and we get automatic promotion.
So please don't try and squash peoples opinions because they don't happen to agree with the official "party line".
A view is one thing but you make wild claims about the club and finances, if you don't think the board are no good then I have no problem with that but you are saying specific points which are not view points but claims, that's what I have a problem with not your view point. I have asked you to back the claims up not to change your views, I am not defending the new owners I am defending the claims that you have made without facts, you then try to deflect this by accusing me of being the owner of a spokesperson, you did it again on the other thread asking what my official view point was on behalf of sport6, how is that having a debate? I am happy to differ in my opinion as it would be a dull world if we all thought the same I just don't like "fans" making wild claims about the club I support without anything to prove it, it's not about justifying yourself to me it's about backing your claims up, if you can't then leave it at opinions there is always room for them without the silly stuff.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 3:39pm Sun 24 Aug 08
I will never understand how anyone can attack the club the support so wholeheartedly, it's one thing being fed up etc but some of the attacks being made are bordering on vicious, things are hard at the moment but surely this is when as fans we need to step up the support and not look at every opportunity to stick the knife in, and for then to say they want the best for the club well it's a funny way of doing it from what I have read on here.
I will never understand how anyone can attack the club the support so wholeheartedly, it's one thing being fed up etc but some of the attacks being made are bordering on vicious, things are hard at the moment but surely this is when as fans we need to step up the support and not look at every opportunity to stick the knife in, and for then to say they want the best for the club well it's a funny way of doing it from what I have read on here.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 4:48pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca as I have said you have an opinion and I have an opinion, stop trying to control the tempo of the posts on this forum. Posts are OK as long as you agree with them. I don't think so mate...
By the way were you actually at the game yesterday. If so after your posts pre game yesterday I am surprised you logged in today. I would have kept quiet for a while.
Macca as I have said you have an opinion and I have an opinion, stop trying to control the tempo of the posts on this forum. Posts are OK as long as you agree with them. I don't think so mate...
By the way were you actually at the game yesterday. If so after your posts pre game yesterday I am surprised you logged in today. I would have kept quiet for a while.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:13pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca as I have said you have an opinion and I have an opinion, stop trying to control the tempo of the posts on this forum. Posts are OK as long as you agree with them. I don't think so mate...
By the way were you actually at the game yesterday. If so after your posts pre game yesterday I am surprised you logged in today. I would have kept quiet for a while. [/quote] Oh what a surprise your posts are ok but I am not allowed to post, try reading what I have said and cut out the personal stuff, you are the only one who has tried to belittle posts, I quite clearly said we all have our own opinions if you can't handle mine then don't reply to them, why is it that when I reply you have to suggest I have another agenda, I have never tried to stop anyone from having a view I have never tried to control the tempo of the posts and why should I not post after yesterdays result? I am proud to be a cherries fan, unhappy at the result yes but that does not stop me supporting the team. Why should I keep quiet that is you trying to control the posts nor me.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca as I have said you have an opinion and I have an opinion, stop trying to control the tempo of the posts on this forum. Posts are OK as long as you agree with them. I don't think so mate...
By the way were you actually at the game yesterday. If so after your posts pre game yesterday I am surprised you logged in today. I would have kept quiet for a while.
Oh what a surprise your posts are ok but I am not allowed to post, try reading what I have said and cut out the personal stuff, you are the only one who has tried to belittle posts, I quite clearly said we all have our own opinions if you can't handle mine then don't reply to them, why is it that when I reply you have to suggest I have another agenda, I have never tried to stop anyone from having a view I have never tried to control the tempo of the posts and why should I not post after yesterdays result? I am proud to be a cherries fan, unhappy at the result yes but that does not stop me supporting the team. Why should I keep quiet that is you trying to control the posts nor me.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:16pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca as I have said you have an opinion and I have an opinion, stop trying to control the tempo of the posts on this forum. Posts are OK as long as you agree with them. I don't think so mate...
By the way were you actually at the game yesterday. If so after your posts pre game yesterday I am surprised you logged in today. I would have kept quiet for a while. [/quote] You still haven't backed up your argument either, is it getting to you that you can't? come on let's see the truth from you not more rumours.
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca as I have said you have an opinion and I have an opinion, stop trying to control the tempo of the posts on this forum. Posts are OK as long as you agree with them. I don't think so mate...
By the way were you actually at the game yesterday. If so after your posts pre game yesterday I am surprised you logged in today. I would have kept quiet for a while.
You still haven't backed up your argument either, is it getting to you that you can't? come on let's see the truth from you not more rumours.
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:29pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca, who are you to try and demand information from people.
It's funny You say "arguments" and I say "opinions"
How can anyone be expected to back up "opinions"
Again stop trying to dominate these forums, I am sure people are getting bored of all of this.
So let's just say we agree to disagree (in my opinion!)
Macca, who are you to try and demand information from people.
It's funny You say "arguments" and I say "opinions"
How can anyone be expected to back up "opinions"
Again stop trying to dominate these forums, I am sure people are getting bored of all of this.
So let's just say we agree to disagree (in my opinion!)
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:33pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Macca, who are you to try and demand information from people.
It's funny You say "arguments" and I say "opinions"
How can anyone be expected to back up "opinions"
Again stop trying to dominate these forums, I am sure people are getting bored of all of this.
So let's just say we agree to disagree (in my opinion!)[/quote] I knew you didn't have any facts !!!!!
AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, who are you to try and demand information from people.
It's funny You say "arguments" and I say "opinions"
How can anyone be expected to back up "opinions"
Again stop trying to dominate these forums, I am sure people are getting bored of all of this.
So let's just say we agree to disagree (in my opinion!)
I knew you didn't have any facts !!!!!
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 5:36pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Facts on what? For the last time you can't back up an opinion by facts.
Facts on what? For the last time you can't back up an opinion by facts.
Posted by: macca02, Farpoint on 5:49pm Sun 24 Aug 08
[quote][bold]AFCB The Only[/bold] wrote:
Facts on what? For the last time you can't back up an opinion by facts.[/quote] So saying what you did about the finances and where the money is being spent etc were just opinion were they? the money for players, the Director of Football etc for opinions you seem very sure you know them to be true and you were quite adamant I was wrong to say give the owners a chance, awfully strong opinions if you have nothing to back them up with aren't they?
AFCB The Only wrote:
Facts on what? For the last time you can't back up an opinion by facts.
So saying what you did about the finances and where the money is being spent etc were just opinion were they? the money for players, the Director of Football etc for opinions you seem very sure you know them to be true and you were quite adamant I was wrong to say give the owners a chance, awfully strong opinions if you have nothing to back them up with aren't they?
Posted by: AFCB The Only, London on 8:36pm Sun 24 Aug 08
Macca, for the last time!
Opinion no.1 I don't think the owners have any money
Opinion no.2 I don't think we need a Director of Football
Opinion No. 3 I think you are wrong saying we should give the new owners a longer chance.
Opinions, OK
Macca, for the last time!
Opinion no.1 I don't think the owners have any money
Opinion no.2 I don't think we need a Director of Football
Opinion No. 3 I think you are wrong saying we should give the new owners a longer chance.
Opinions, OK
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